Regarding the next version...

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Dec 08, 2005 9:59 pm

Like Bashrat the Sneaky, I too have final exams next week. As a result, my attentions will be completely focused on that until next Friday evening (I have one a day every day next week). As a result, there will not be an update pack release on Tuesday when the new security updates come out. The earliest I will be able to get the next version out is next weekend, probably Sunday afternoon.

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DisabledTrucker · Post by **DisabledTrucker** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:17 am

That's fine, your grades are much more important than these packs. Get to it when it's convienent to you.
Here's to hoping that you pass each one.

eddiem · Post by **eddiem** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 12:20 am

Good luck with the exams.
Eddie.

dsp_deep · Post by **dsp_deep** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 1:47 am

Good Luck for Exams!

glent · Post by **glent** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 3:12 am

Good luck Ryan im sure you will ace them

ViVa · Post by **ViVa** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 5:20 am

Hmm, I think you should pay more attention the the packs than your school, this entire community is expecting an update next wednesday.

:lol: j/k, good luck with your exams m8!

Fencer128 · Post by **Fencer128** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:00 am

Good luck with your exams!

Andy

n7Epsilon · Post by **n7Epsilon** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:18 am

I have exams too!! (Pharmacy)...

Good Luck! Packs can wait...

maa · Post by **maa** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:37 am

good luck and wish you get a best result for your school packs

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 9:10 am

Good luck with your exam's.

dgelwin · Post by **dgelwin** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 6:04 pm

in spanish its more polite to say "Te deseo exitos" = "I wish you succes", because luck has nothing to do with ones potential. besides, im sure you're gonna ace it.

Siginet · Post by **Siginet** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:40 pm

ViVa wrote:Hmm, I think you should pay more attention the the packs than your school, this entire community is expecting an update next wednesday.

:lol: j/k, good luck with your exams m8!

lol! I was thinking the same thing!

I find that crossing your fingers works 50% of the time.

Eeney meeny miney moe... tends to work on multiple choice questions sometimes too.

Don't worry ryan... you'll do just fine.

Post by **5eraph** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 8:45 pm

The answer is 42.

ViVa · Post by **ViVa** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 10:42 pm

42! wow... didn't expect ppl to know the specialty of it here...

dgelwin · Post by **dgelwin** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:46 pm

42 is the answer to life the universe and everything else, never forget that.

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Fri Dec 09, 2005 11:50 pm

I thought 2 was the answer to everything,

Xable · Post by **Xable** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 12:01 am

3 = success

but what is success...

DisabledTrucker · Post by **DisabledTrucker** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 1:39 am

Sucess is when you wake up and the woman laying next to you isn't your wife!!!

I wont tell in here what a failure is...

ViVa · Post by **ViVa** » Sat Dec 10, 2005 7:57 am

http://www.empirenet.com/~dljones/

thuun · Post by **thuun** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 1:25 pm

~27 is mine.

RVM-good luck wit dem testesez.

PimpSquash · Post by **PimpSquash** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 4:14 pm

Good Luck Ryan

Alanoll · Post by **Alanoll** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:23 pm

RyanVM wrote:Like Bashrat the Sneaky, I too have final exams next week. As a result, my attentions will be completely focused on that until next Friday evening (I have one a day every day next week). As a result, there will not be an update pack release on Tuesday when the new security updates come out. The earliest I will be able to get the next version out is next weekend, probably Sunday afternoon.

Put me on that list as well...stupid exams...

Siginet · Post by **Siginet** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:31 pm

Alanoll wrote:
RyanVM wrote:Like Bashrat the Sneaky, I too have final exams next week. As a result, my attentions will be completely focused on that until next Friday evening (I have one a day every day next week). As a result, there will not be an update pack release on Tuesday when the new security updates come out. The earliest I will be able to get the next version out is next weekend, probably Sunday afternoon.
Put me on that list as well...stupid exams...

LoL! Hey what do you know.... I have a bigger post count than Alanoll!

ViVa · Post by **ViVa** » Wed Dec 14, 2005 8:39 pm

On this forum maybe

Talk about MSFN...

Alanoll · Post by **Alanoll** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 1:07 am

Siginet wrote:
Alanoll wrote:
RyanVM wrote:Like Bashrat the Sneaky, I too have final exams next week. As a result, my attentions will be completely focused on that until next Friday evening (I have one a day every day next week). As a result, there will not be an update pack release on Tuesday when the new security updates come out. The earliest I will be able to get the next version out is next weekend, probably Sunday afternoon.
Put me on that list as well...stupid exams...
LoL! Hey what do you know.... I have a bigger post count than Alanoll!

Yeah, shit happens when I don't have to moderate and instead of posting on here, I can just call Ryan on the phone and tell him the answer

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 4:29 pm

Well, the shit just hit the fan big time. Yesterday, my RAID array which stores all of my music, movies, backups, downloads, MSFN-related stuff, etc decided to spontaneously corrupt itself after rebooting. So now I get the fun job of trying (most likely in vain) to recover the data from the array this weekend instead of getting other work done. This fucking sucks

DisabledTrucker · Post by **DisabledTrucker** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 5:38 pm

I hear you there, were you not using a Raid 1 or Raid 5 setup?

I feel for you, I thought I had the same problem but come to find out it was my cables going bad so I replaced it and everything is just fine now...

The drive I almost had go had all my backups on it as well as my working files and all my pictures, the music/movies I have on seperate Raid 1 drives just for that problem...

If your cables aren't the problem you can try and use the Support Tool "DiskProbe" to try and restore it with, not sure if it will have any sucess though or not...

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 8:42 pm

It's a RAID10 array. I restarted my computer and now the RAID controller says it's an invalid drive array. Computer sees the drives just fine, which makes me think the metadata got fucked up or something. I haven't completely lost hope for my data, but I'm not optimistic either.

DisabledTrucker · Post by **DisabledTrucker** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:17 pm

If they're Western Digital Drives you can download their utility for Windows and test them from there... that should inform you of exactly what the problem is and not mess up any data on it... though it is possible that it could I've used it before to test my drives without any problems... Other companies have a disk utility too, but they usually all run from DOS...

It's the Diag software you need, you'll have to go to wdc.com/support and get it from the list... It's near the bottom of the list...

techtype · Post by **techtype** » Thu Dec 15, 2005 9:29 pm

I think you might want Runtime Software's "Raid Reconstructor". It can usually recover a corrupted raid array ......... YMMV.

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 11:31 am

Ryan, after using (successfully) Raid Reconstructor, have a look at the Linux NAS distro at nas.darma.com. I've got 4x 1 TB home-built raid arrays that cost me an average of $700 each using new 2U cases, mobos, and drives. The core filesystem at Darma is the SGI journaled FS. Very nice in terms of performance on cheap hardware and also in terms of recoverability. Nary a problem yet (after 3 years of 24x7 use). Sure, the next 2 years could get interesting as the drives (all Seagates & Hitachis) get close to 5 years old, but I'm encouraged by past experience with the stuff.

Oh, and it looks as though the going price for 200 Gb (7200 RPM, 8 Mb cache) Seagate and Hitachi drives is around $100 at a load of on-line sellers.

Post by **RyanVM** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:12 pm

RAID Reconstructor doesn't support RAID10 arrays.

techtype · Post by **techtype** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 7:18 pm

RyanVM wrote:RAID Reconstructor doesn't support RAID10 arrays.

YMDV

hajj_3 · Post by **hajj_3** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 9:59 pm

please bring out a new version soon ryan, just got a laptop, need to nlite it, want a nice new pack for it.

Alanoll · Post by **Alanoll** » Fri Dec 16, 2005 10:15 pm

hajj_3 wrote:please bring out a new version soon ryan, just got a laptop, need to nlite it, want a nice new pack for it.

You seriously don't read do you?

hajj_3 · Post by **hajj_3** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 5:50 am

i do read, he said sat or sun prob.

boooggy · Post by **boooggy** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:10 am

then wait.....

Noxious Ninja · Post by **Noxious Ninja** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 4:18 pm

hajj_3 wrote:i do read, he said sat or sun prob.

He also said he's having system issues and it probably won't be this weekend. Just use 2.0.1, there's only a few new updates.

Mavericks choice · Post by **Mavericks choice** » Sat Dec 17, 2005 6:39 pm

Thats right guys its no life or death issue, when Ryan sorts his machine he will surely post it then & who cares how long it takes as its always reliable.

Cya

MC.

tbone2 · Post by **tbone2** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 12:41 am

OMG the world is slowing down.....how can I live with out the new pack.....RyanVM take your time SIR ...matter of fact take the month off

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 3:59 am

Ryan, can you please focus on your update pack. You don't need those big RAID Capacities anyway.

Mavericks choice · Post by **Mavericks choice** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 4:29 am

hp38guser wrote:Ryan, can you please focus on your update pack. You don't need those big RAID Capacities anyway.

Hey its christmas everyone likes Toys & Gadgets.

DisabledTrucker · Post by **DisabledTrucker** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 6:00 am

Though I'm not familiar with raid 10 arrays, I'd assume that they have some redundancy built in? Or are you talking about 1+0 arrays? IF they have redundancy built in, when you find the faulty drive or controller, it should be rather easy to have them recognize the data and recover it again once you can replace them. Have yourself a Merry Christmas though and worry about the pack afterwards...

Post by **RyanVM** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 8:34 am

hp38guser wrote:Ryan, can you please focus on your update pack. You don't need those big RAID Capacities anyway.

Mavericc · Post by **Mavericc** » Sun Dec 18, 2005 9:02 pm

Oh, man... I have my system disk mirrored and this is exactly what happened once when WinXP got screwed and I had to just switch the power off. RAID controller said "invalid RAID array" or something along those lines and I couldn't boot anymore.

But since it was RAID1, it was easy to recover - thank god. I just deleted the array which left the disks blank (partition tables empty) and then used TestDisk to recreate the partition table on the source disk. After that I recreated the RAID1 array.

Dunno if you can do that in your case, though, I'm not familiar with RAID10.

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 12:29 am

Software-driven raid, that is when the RAID controller is driven by the main cpu and under control of a general purpose OS, is pretty dangerous.

Far better to use a RAID controller with it's own firmware and CPU.

A 'poor mans' way around this is to make frequent copies of your primary disk storage to a standby disk, preferably one on the LAN instead of being co-lo'd in the system case.

You can write a VB script to take care of the copies or use something like the KarenWare Replicator that is available as an addon pack.

300Gb SATA drives can be had for about $125 these days. Check via pricewatch.com.

Mavericks choice · Post by **Mavericks choice** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 4:41 am

All very interesting shit, but ya always can't have too many backup sources Huh.

Merry Christmas to one & all.

MC.

buletov · Post by **buletov** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 8:37 am

RAID failure sucks....

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 9:36 am

There's RAID0 recovery tools (which I might be able to use if I managed to correctly pick two striped drives from the array and not two mirrored drives), but all of those only increase the likelihood of making the data irrecoverable. I'm going to call a few other places today that appear to do data recovery for a more reasonable price. If I can find a place that'll do it for a few hundred bucks, I'll probably just bite the bullet and do that.

In the future, I'm going to change my backup strategy. Instead of 4 drives in a RAID10 array, I'm going to make two RAID0 arrays. One of those arrays will resume the role the RAID10 array played in the past. The other will be a backup array, where I'll have backup software doing copies every night from one array to the other. Secondly, I'm going to be getting an external hard drive to which I can do weekly or biweekly backups as well. Sadly, I was always planning on getting an external drive for backups (for situations exactly like this one), but I just didn't have the funds to do it yet

.

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Mon Dec 19, 2005 10:46 am

Ryan, the last two 1 Tb disk arrays I built cost me under $700 each using new components.

2U case, 300 watt PC, mobo, cpu, ram, and 5x 250 Gb drives.

I've got 4 of these arrays running at home now supporting the freelance photo business. I just picked up a used IBM optical jukebox with 2x DVD-+- drives for $1k from ebay. Once I get the optical jukebox running I'll probably retire at least one of the 1Tb arrays.

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