Windows XP SP3 RTM Confirmed on April 29, 2008 Not Confirmed

posttoast · Post by **posttoast** » Tue May 06, 2008 2:55 am

SelfMan wrote:
posttoast wrote:I just tried MU: no .NET 3.0. It did show .NET 1.1 en 2.0, but that's not new.

Are you 100% sure that it's 3.0 you are seeing?
Ah sorry... mea culpa... I've done more setups and mixed them up.
You are right... the .NET 3.0 is not displayed.
But, who cares as we have the AIO addon or the redistributable 3.5 (which includes 2.0SP1+3.0SP1+3.5). I install that stuff by default.

Where can I find this redistributable?

roirraWedorehT · Post by **roirraWedorehT** » Tue May 06, 2008 5:15 am

posttoast wrote:
SelfMan wrote:
posttoast wrote:I just tried MU: no .NET 3.0. It did show .NET 1.1 en 2.0, but that's not new.

Are you 100% sure that it's 3.0 you are seeing?
Ah sorry... mea culpa... I've done more setups and mixed them up.
You are right... the .NET 3.0 is not displayed.
But, who cares as we have the AIO addon or the redistributable 3.5 (which includes 2.0SP1+3.0SP1+3.5). I install that stuff by default.
Where can I find this redistributable?

Google "microsoft .net 3.5 redistributable" without the quotes: http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=mi ... tributable

On the page http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... 8D977D32A6 you'll find a link for "Full Redistributable Package" closer to the bottom of the page: http://download.microsoft.com/download/ ... etfx35.exe. 197.2 MB.

posttoast · Post by **posttoast** » Tue May 06, 2008 7:29 am

Why didn't they include 1.1 in there? Is it more or less obsolete now?

keloo05 · Post by **keloo05** » Tue May 06, 2008 4:49 pm

Windows Xp SP3, Checked Build from Microsoft (direct link)

Windows Xp SP3, CD Image File ISO-9660 from Microsoft (direct link)

This installation package is intended for IT professionals and developers downloading to a machine intending to debug or develop software on Windows XP Service Pack 3

I thought it would be nice to share...Maybe some developers will use it.

roirraWedorehT · Post by **roirraWedorehT** » Tue May 06, 2008 6:25 pm

posttoast wrote:Why didn't they include 1.1 in there? Is it more or less obsolete now?

I've considered .NET 1.x obsolete for a long time.

I think they consider 2.0 and above much more efficient than 1.x.

Also, FYI, SP3 showed up as an Automatic Update for me today.

SelfMan · Post by **SelfMan** » Tue May 06, 2008 8:44 pm

my WSUS server notified me today about SP3...
Yet I will wait few months till all is properly tested...

posttoast · Post by **posttoast** » Wed May 07, 2008 3:05 am

[quote="roirraW "edor""]

posttoast wrote:Why didn't they include 1.1 in there? Is it more or less obsolete now?

I've considered .NET 1.x obsolete for a long time.

I think they consider 2.0 and above much more efficient than 1.x.

Also, FYI, SP3 showed up as an Automatic Update for me today.[/quote]
Yeah, there probably aren't many applications left that depend on .NET 1.x. However: does it have any impact on your system performance if you *do* install it? I think the framework is only loaded when it is needed, so the only thing you sacrifice is harddiskspace.

roirraWedorehT · Post by **roirraWedorehT** » Wed May 07, 2008 5:39 am

posttoast wrote:[quote="roirraW "edor""]
posttoast wrote:Why didn't they include 1.1 in there? Is it more or less obsolete now?
I've considered .NET 1.x obsolete for a long time. I think they consider 2.0 and above much more efficient than 1.x.

Also, FYI, SP3 showed up as an Automatic Update for me today.

Yeah, there probably aren't many applications left that depend on .NET 1.x. However: does it have any impact on your system performance if you *do* install it? I think the framework is only loaded when it is needed, so the only thing you sacrifice is harddiskspace.[/quote]

AFAIK system performance wouldn't degrade just by installing it. There was something I noticed with ATI's Catalyst Control Center a couple of years ago, though. If I only had .NET 2.0 installed, it would use that, and it would be "faster". However if I then installed .NET 1.x for some other application that specifically needed it, ATI's CCC would then revert back to using 1.x and it would be slower. I have no idea if it still does this since I started using DriverPacks and I choose to install the old ATI Control Panel interface, which is much faster than CCC no matter what.

I don't know if any other applications behave the same with the .NET 2.0 to 1.x downgrade.

kbal · Post by **kbal** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:56 am

keloo05: This 'Windows Xp SP3, CD Image File ISO-9660', is it Pro, Corp (VLK) or what?
I would realy like to get my hands on an corp version, because i Format a lot

Post by **5eraph** » Thu May 08, 2008 2:58 am

None of the above, kbal. It's simply the ISO of a CD with the network installer and some extra files. It's not an actual Windows XP installation ISO.

kbal · Post by **kbal** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:45 am

Damn i noticed when it would not boot. Will MS release a full xpSP3?

Post by **5eraph** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:48 am

Not at retail if their plan to discontinue XP next month succeeds. It may be possible to download an ISO from MSDN if you're a member.

TechnoHunter · Post by **TechnoHunter** » Thu May 08, 2008 3:51 am

according the the technetflash i just recieved that is most definately true.. (links for the download were in the flash ^_^ )

so yup.. you can get a ISO from MS if you are a MSDN subscriber that is XP sp3

-wave-

TechnoHunter

mon1018 · Post by **mon1018** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 7:43 pm

Thanks you, your a god.
Thank you for your help. Really appreciate it.

roirraWedorehT · Post by **roirraWedorehT** » Sun Jun 15, 2008 10:37 pm

Eric Clapton has left the building.

I don't really consider him to be god anyway.

msdemich · Post by **msdemich** » Wed Jun 18, 2008 12:53 pm

5eraph wrote:Not at retail if their plan to discontinue XP next month succeeds. It may be possible to download an ISO from MSDN if you're a member.

I believe MS is only requiring that OEMs to stop shipping new computers with XP at the end of this month. MS will continue to sell retail versions until the end of the year. I don't know if they will be SP3 though --I suspect not.