Windows XP SP3 RTM Confirmed on April 29, 2008 Not Confirmed

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:06 am

Ok firing up a 2nd system. Rechecking as suggested. My SP2 file adds the Version Tab but still no Digital Signature tab. Checking my SP1 copy I do see the Digital Signature tab.

Edit: Well I used Mark Russinovich's tool Sigcheck to check the digital Signature from the Command line and this is what it shows:


Sigcheck v1.52
Copyright (C) 2004-2008 Mark Russinovich
Sysinternals - www.sysinternals.com

c:\install\WindowsXP-KB936929-SP3-x86-ENU.exe:
Verified: Signed
Signing date: 11:30 PM 4/13/2008
Publisher: Microsoft Corporation
Description: Self-Extracting Cabinet
Product: Microsoft« Windows« Operating System
Version: 6.2.0029.0
File version: 6.2.0029.0 (SRV03_QFE.031113-0918)

C:\>

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:37 am

BTW, thanks for the link Outbreaker! :D

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Post by TechnoHunter » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:11 am

hiya guys.. for a little background on this missing sig tab try here

good luck!

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:46 am

That's interesting, but I didn't notice it mention about why the same file would have a Digital Signatures tab for some people and not for others. Did I miss it?

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:07 am

I had this issue with betas and RCs of SP3 but I ignored it since they weren't RTM.

In summary, if you perform the slipstreaming of SP3 into XP Corporate under Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008, then it will no longer accept your proper VLK keys. I don't know if similar issues are present when performing slipstreams to other editions of XP under Vista/Server 2008.

Other people have confirmed that they still had this issue with SP3 RTM, and I did as well. Re-slipstreaming under XP SP2 instead of under Vista allowed the resulting installation source to still accept my VLK keys.

Links to articles and/or user comments pertaining to this issue:

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/sho ... 0&pageid=3

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs ... uring.aspx

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Post by TechnoHunter » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:18 am

[quote="roirraW "edor""]That's interesting, but I didn't notice it mention about why the same file would have a Digital Signatures tab for some people and not for others. Did I miss it?[/quote]

basically the page said that it had something to do with explorer in windows xp sp2 and that it had something to to with file size.. (from the bit i read)

not sure why it works on some and not others... files are the same but some work and some dont :)

good luck..

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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:59 am

[quote="roirraW "edor""]I had this issue with betas and RCs of SP3 but I ignored it since they weren't RTM.

In summary, if you perform the slipstreaming of SP3 into XP Corporate under Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008, then it will no longer accept your proper VLK keys. I don't know if similar issues are present when performing slipstreams to other editions of XP under Vista/Server 2008.

Other people have confirmed that they still had this issue with SP3 RTM, and I did as well. Re-slipstreaming under XP SP2 instead of under Vista allowed the resulting installation source to still accept my VLK keys.

Links to articles and/or user comments pertaining to this issue:

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/sho ... 0&pageid=3

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs ... uring.aspx[/quote]

OMG you may have saved my life!!!

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Post by newsposter » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:02 am

So the 'host' machine doing the slipstreaming into source **has** to be XP SP2.

I would expect this to be by design on MSFTs part.

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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:23 am

same here

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Post by pksw » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:03 am

I cannot see the digital signature tab either. I have followed the slipstream instructions on the technet forums (under WinXP SP2), and can confirm that VLK keys work. I put them in WINNT.SIF, and tested under VMWare.

As mentioned previously, it sounds like the problems with keys relate to the host OS being used when slipstreaming SP3.

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Post by cosy » Wed Apr 23, 2008 4:33 am

I may have to wait for the official release before I get all sorts of fun like this on the web:
MODERATOR EDIT: Link to image containing warez CD-Key removed.

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:33 am

Kelsenellenelvian wrote:[quote="roirraW "edor""]I had this issue with betas and RCs of SP3 but I ignored it since they weren't RTM.

In summary, if you perform the slipstreaming of SP3 into XP Corporate under Windows Vista or Windows Server 2008, then it will no longer accept your proper VLK keys. I don't know if similar issues are present when performing slipstreams to other editions of XP under Vista/Server 2008.

Other people have confirmed that they still had this issue with SP3 RTM, and I did as well. Re-slipstreaming under XP SP2 instead of under Vista allowed the resulting installation source to still accept my VLK keys.

Links to articles and/or user comments pertaining to this issue:

http://forums.microsoft.com/technet/sho ... 0&pageid=3

http://community.winsupersite.com/blogs ... uring.aspx
OMG you may have saved my life!!![/quote]

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:45 am

Also interesting that Microsoft Update doesn't list IE7 at all under XP slipstreamed with SP3 RTM. It does list WMP11 under optional updates, but no IE7. Wonder if that will be adjusted in the next week or so.

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Post by creative4rce » Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:43 am

well at least i got to try it ... seems to run much better the 5512 and something i have noticed but not sure if its true ...

directx files are dates 2008 build 5512 ... so does that mean that part is all updated and fixed .. or am i seeing things?

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:58 am

I looked at DirectX too. I assumed the same thing (that it was up to date), but I'm no expert on the subject.

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:02 am

More interesting info, although I haven't confirmed it but I wonder what the "experts" have to say about this:

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/sho ... &siteid=17
i did a small test



1) XP Retail CD "Gold" German -> slipstream to SP3 RTM

2) XP Retail CD "Gold" German-> slipstream to SP2 -> next to slipstream to SP3 RTM

if found that there are several files that are different.



E.g



Gold->SP3
MSRDP.CA_ is from 18.08.01
MSTSC.EX_ is from 18.08.01 -> 5.1.2600.0

Gold->SP2->SP3
MSRDP.CA_ is from 04.08.04
MSTSC.EX_ is from 08.08.04 -> v5.1.2600.2180


So Gold to SP3 will have some file older that if you slipstream SP2 before SP3

Why ?

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Edit: Whenever I have the time, I'll actually perform a file comparison between these two sets of files to see if there's a difference, but I don't have the time today. Logic would tell me there will be differences, but only testing will tell for sure.
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Post by 5eraph » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:52 am

What's going on here? Since when have we allowed links to serials or warez sites on this forum? Please wake up, people.

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Post by crashfly » Wed Apr 23, 2008 12:49 pm

5eraph wrote:What's going on here? Since when have we allowed links to serials or warez sites on this forum? Please wake up, people.

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Thank you 5eraph. I was wondering what the moderators thought of that. If someone is really intent on looking for XP SP3, they should google for it like I did.
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Post by Gorki » Wed Apr 23, 2008 1:19 pm

Can someone verify... is directX (March release) included in last 5512 build? Thanks :)

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Post by Submariner » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:04 pm

Major Geeks has:
Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 Final

Then it has:
Beta service packs are not for the average PC user. Unless you are an experienced Windows user and troubleshooter, please wait for the final release.

Does Major Geeks have the real final release or a beta, considering it is not suppose to be released until 29th?

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:14 pm

Gorki wrote:Can someone verify... is directX (March release) included in last 5512 build? Thanks :)
I just installed and running dxdiag it shows the current version as:
4.09.0000.0904 DirectX 9.0c. I'm not sure how to tell if that is the latest March release however.

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Post by project51 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:19 pm

jbob wrote:I just installed and running dxdiag it shows the current version as:
4.09.0000.0904 DirectX 9.0c. I'm not sure how to tell if that is the latest March release however.
Run the DXWEBSETUP.EXE from here. If it downloaded something when you run it... it means your system doesn't have the complete file and requires to be updated.

Please report back tnx.

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Post by project51 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:21 pm

Submariner wrote:Major Geeks has:
Microsoft Windows XP Service Pack 3 Final

Then it has:
Beta service packs are not for the average PC user. Unless you are an experienced Windows user and troubleshooter, please wait for the final release.

Does Major Geeks have the real final release or a beta, considering it is not suppose to be released until 29th?
I just downloaded from MajorGeek and their SP3 is the same with the rest. Same MD5.

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:26 pm

project51 wrote:
jbob wrote:I just installed and running dxdiag it shows the current version as:
4.09.0000.0904 DirectX 9.0c. I'm not sure how to tell if that is the latest March release however.
Run the DXWEBSETUP.EXE from here. If it downloaded something when you run it... it means your system doesn't have the complete file and requires to be updated.

Please report back tnx.
Ok tried that. It seemed to download the whole 23 MBs and proceed to install. From what I can tell nothing seemed to change but too many files to determine. Don't think that was a good test! ;-)

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Post by project51 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 2:37 pm

jbob wrote:
project51 wrote:
jbob wrote:I just installed and running dxdiag it shows the current version as:
4.09.0000.0904 DirectX 9.0c. I'm not sure how to tell if that is the latest March release however.
Run the DXWEBSETUP.EXE from here. If it downloaded something when you run it... it means your system doesn't have the complete file and requires to be updated.

Please report back tnx.
Ok tried that. It seemed to download the whole 23 MBs and proceed to install. From what I can tell nothing seemed to change but too many files to determine. Don't think that was a good test! ;-)
Thanks jbob, that confirms that SP3 doesn't have DirectX March 2008.

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 3:14 pm

project51 wrote:
jbob wrote:
project51 wrote: Run the DXWEBSETUP.EXE from here. If it downloaded something when you run it... it means your system doesn't have the complete file and requires to be updated.

Please report back tnx.
Ok tried that. It seemed to download the whole 23 MBs and proceed to install. From what I can tell nothing seemed to change but too many files to determine. Don't think that was a good test! ;-)
Thanks jbob, that confirms that SP3 doesn't have DirectX March 2008.
And to further confirm I tested the download(directx) on my main system that is only a few months old. It only required a 2.6 mb download. I watched it download the March update only. The fresh install of SP3 downloaded 23 MBs worth and I saw months in 2007 being downloaded so looks like it doesn't have very many DirectX updates at all.

This is another item that doesn't show up in Microsoft Update. So looks like people still need to incorporate the latest DirectX updates into their installs and/or run the updater after install.

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Post by Gorki » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:02 pm

Interesting finding jbob. I kinda expected that from M$... quite disappointing if you ask me.
Anyway jbob thanks for looking into it. :)

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Post by posttoast » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:36 pm

Does anyone know how I can use the new Vista-like feature to install without a key and enter it later? I have a corp-version of XP here, and when I don't enter a key during setup it tells me that I can't continue.

Another thing: I have a corporate key (a legal one) that I can't use in a slipstreamed SP3 install. It tells me that the key is invalid. If I install with SP2 slipstreamed and then update manually to SP3 everything seems to be alright. Even if I go to the Microsoft site and do a Genuine Windows check I am told my Windows is completely genuine. Does anyone have any idea why the key doesn't work the way I want it to?

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:36 pm

More to report. I was successful in Slipstreaming SP3 onto a Dell OEM XP SP2 CD(not a re-installation CD). Installed fine with the same results as my earlier post.

One more thing. I did download and install the a IE7 installer. During the installation process there was a check box that asked if it should get all the current updates for IE7 and the Malicious Software tool. I unselected the check box hoping that with IE7 installed it would then show up in WU. No GO.
No updates show up for IE7 however comparing that IE7 with my current main system shows the same IE version.
7.0.5730.13 I'm not sure if the IE7 installer didn't go ahead and update with all the latest patches even though I unchecked the box to do so.

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Post by posttoast » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:38 pm

jbob wrote:More to report. I was successful in Slipstreaming SP3 onto a Dell OEM XP SP2 CD(not a re-installation CD). Installed fine with the same results as my earlier post.

One more thing. I did download and install the a IE7 installer. During the installation process there was a check box that asked if it should get all the current updates for IE7 and the Malicious Software tool. I unselected the check box hoping that with IE7 installed it would then show up in WU. No GO.
No updates show up for IE7 however comparing that IE7 with my current main system shows the same IE version.
7.0.5730.13 I'm not sure if the IE7 installer didn't go ahead and update with all the latest patches even though I unchecked the box to do so.
I believe SP3 has the latest IE7 fixes build-in. So when you install SP3 first and then install IE7 it has all hotfixes already.

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 5:46 pm

That might be it.

Does anyone know what the current policy with MS Update is with IE7? Seems to me when IE7 first came out it did show up on the Critical Update list but then later it might have been removed. That is one possibility why IE7 is not showing up.
Dang guess I'll just have to do another SP2 clean install to check that out! lol

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Post by crashfly » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:03 pm

If you guys look carefully, certain things are *not* included with SP3. The latest MRT is one of them. IE7 and WMP are two others. Updates not *directly* integrated with either of those *should* be included with SP3. Otherwise, you may still have to update products that were not originally with Windows XP.
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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:16 pm

Great! A poster on DSLReports posted a download link from Microsoft to the SP3 release. I downloaded it and it came down fast however......the file size and hash is different than the one that was found via P2P.
The thread post is here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r203757 ... t-and-MSDN

Not sure why the file sizes are different. If anyone cares.

Edit: Actually he posted two links but the files at either link are of different size. I downloaded from the lower link.
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Post by redxii » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:17 pm

MS has not made the IE7 hotfix installers "compatible" with SP3, all IE7 hotfix installers look for a maximum of SP2, therefore they won't be detected for nor allow install on SP3 with IE7.

You'll have to integrate IE7 with an addon pack if u want IE7 + updates on a integrated SP3 install.

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Post by jbob » Wed Apr 23, 2008 6:25 pm

redxii wrote:MS has not made the IE7 hotfix installers "compatible" with SP3, all IE7 hotfix installers look for a maximum of SP2, therefore they won't be detected for nor allow install on SP3 with IE7.

You'll have to integrate IE7 with an addon pack if u want IE7 + updates on a integrated SP3 install.
Thanks Red...that makes more sense. I "assume" MS will eventually make WU and/or MU compatible with SP3.

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Post by SelfMan » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:17 pm

I've integrated the SP3 (316MB) via /integrate:<path>
Used the latest nLite 1.4.5b2 to integrate
OnePiece_IE7AddOn_2.1.0_ENU.7z, RVMAddonsDX9_1.4.7z, WScript57-1.0.0-Addon.7z and few network card drivers.

I've run Boogy's WMP11Slipstreamer.exe with
windowsmedia11-kb928788-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb929399-v2-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb929773-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb932390-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb933547-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb935551-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb935552-x86-intl.exe
WindowsMedia11-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe
windowsmedia11-kb939209-x86-intl.exe
WindowsMedia11-KB939683-x86-ENU.exe
windowsmedia11-kb942264-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb944110-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb944882-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb946665-x86-intl.exe
WindowsXP-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE

Create a ISO and installed in VirtualPC
Installation went without problems.
visited Microsoft udate web and this has been shown:
Hight Priority: Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - April 2008 (KB890830)
Optional SW:
Root Certificates Update
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
Microsoft Silverlight 1.0 (KB946609)

I've selected all items and let it install - success

Next scan round showed the usual ServicePacks fort .NET 1.1 and 2.0
Installation successfull...

Next scan round
1 update: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366)
Installation successfull...

Installation finished, no other stuff wanted...

The only drawback I saw was that the Windows Update activex got overwritten by a older version.
The system's SFC then screamed for the installation CD and replaced the file back.

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Post by crashfly » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:22 pm

SelfMan wrote:I've integrated the SP3 (316MB) via /integrate:<path>
Used the latest nLite 1.4.5b2 to integrate
OnePiece_IE7AddOn_2.1.0_ENU.7z, RVMAddonsDX9_1.4.7z, WScript57-1.0.0-Addon.7z and few network card drivers.

I've run Boogy's WMP11Slipstreamer.exe with
windowsmedia11-kb928788-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb929399-v2-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb929773-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb932390-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb933547-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb935551-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb935552-x86-intl.exe
WindowsMedia11-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe
windowsmedia11-kb939209-x86-intl.exe
WindowsMedia11-KB939683-x86-ENU.exe
windowsmedia11-kb942264-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb944110-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb944882-x86-intl.exe
windowsmedia11-kb946665-x86-intl.exe
WindowsXP-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE

Create a ISO and installed in VirtualPC
Installation went without problems.
visited Microsoft udate web and this has been shown:
Hight Priority: Windows Malicious Software Removal Tool - April 2008 (KB890830)
Optional SW:
Root Certificates Update
Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0: x86 (KB829019)
Microsoft .NET Framework version 1.1
Microsoft Silverlight 1.0 (KB946609)

I've selected all items and let it install - success

Next scan round showed the usual ServicePacks fort .NET 1.1 and 2.0
Installation successfull...

Next scan round
1 update: Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework, Version 1.1 Service Pack 1 (KB928366)
Installation successfull...

Installation finished, no other stuff wanted...

The only drawback I saw was that the Windows Update activex got overwritten by a older version.
The system's SFC then screamed for the installation CD and replaced the file back.
WScript is not needed as SP3 comes with the latest (tested by myself). Futhermore, you may want to include the root certificates updates and possibly an AIO .Net installer under 'RunOnceEx' to make sure they are installed after the OS is done installing (that is what I have done with setting tweaks, IE7 hotfixes, and etc).
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Post by SelfMan » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:27 pm

crashfly wrote:WScript is not needed as SP3 comes with the latest (tested by myself). Futhermore, you may want to include the root certificates updates and possibly an AIO .Net installer under 'RunOnceEx' to make sure they are installed after the OS is done installing (that is what I have done with setting tweaks, IE7 hotfixes, and etc).
WScript - thought so, but just wanted to see what happens :-)
All the other stuff is what I normally do. For now I just wanted to see what happens on the Microsoft update site.
I only wonder why the SP3 contains a very old flash.ocx version (6.x).

[EDIT]
I've added .NET 3.5 (again just to see what happens) so no problems either...

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:40 pm

I have found a HotFix but ther are 2 version of it one for (SP2) and the other for (SP2 & SP3) an this one is also 2 times bigger strange.
KB947864 - 4/8/2008 ::
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... 383295e180
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... 651a390ba9
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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:41 pm

posttoast wrote:Does anyone know how I can use the new Vista-like feature to install without a key and enter it later? I have a corp-version of XP here, and when I don't enter a key during setup it tells me that I can't continue.

Another thing: I have a corporate key (a legal one) that I can't use in a slipstreamed SP3 install. It tells me that the key is invalid. If I install with SP2 slipstreamed and then update manually to SP3 everything seems to be alright. Even if I go to the Microsoft site and do a Genuine Windows check I am told my Windows is completely genuine. Does anyone have any idea why the key doesn't work the way I want it to?
First of all, even with SP3, the Corporate edition of XP won't include the ability to install without a key. This has been covered many places. That ability resides only in non-Corporate editions of XP with SP3 slipstreamed.

Edit: Your other question I have the answer to closer to the top of this page.
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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 7:43 pm

jbob wrote:That might be it.

Does anyone know what the current policy with MS Update is with IE7? Seems to me when IE7 first came out it did show up on the Critical Update list but then later it might have been removed. That is one possibility why IE7 is not showing up.
Dang guess I'll just have to do another SP2 clean install to check that out! lol
IE7 still shows up as a critical update when WU/MU checked with just XP SP2. The last time I observed this behavior was just last week.

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Post by krieger546 » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:00 pm

[quote="roirraW "edor""]More interesting info, although I haven't confirmed it but I wonder what the "experts" have to say about this:

http://forums.microsoft.com/TechNet/sho ... &siteid=17
i did a small test



1) XP Retail CD "Gold" German -> slipstream to SP3 RTM

2) XP Retail CD "Gold" German-> slipstream to SP2 -> next to slipstream to SP3 RTM

if found that there are several files that are different.



E.g



Gold->SP3
MSRDP.CA_ is from 18.08.01
MSTSC.EX_ is from 18.08.01 -> 5.1.2600.0

Gold->SP2->SP3
MSRDP.CA_ is from 04.08.04
MSTSC.EX_ is from 08.08.04 -> v5.1.2600.2180


So Gold to SP3 will have some file older that if you slipstream SP2 before SP3

Why ?

BR,
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Edit: Whenever I have the time, I'll actually perform a file comparison between these two sets of files to see if there's a difference, but I don't have the time today. Logic would tell me there will be differences, but only testing will tell for sure.[/quote]

I compared two direct integration scenarios with SP3 RTM:

left: XP Pro corp gold > SP3

right: XP Pro corp gold > SP2 > SP3

Differences in i386 (besides sp2.cab, sp2.cat):

Code: Select all

+GUITRN_A.DL_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +GUITRN_A.DL_ 4.08.2004 1:56:44
+MIGISM_A.DL_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MIGISM_A.DL_ 4.08.2004 1:56:44
+MIGWIZ_A.EX_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MIGWIZ_A.EX_ 4.08.2004 1:56:52
+MMC.CH_      23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MMC.CH_      17.07.2004 12:40:26
+MSRDP.CA_    23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MSRDP.CA_    4.08.2004 2:58:04
+MSTSC.CH_    23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MSTSC.CH_    17.07.2004 12:40:26
+MSTSC.EX_    23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MSTSC.EX_    3.08.2004 23:59:42
+MSTSCAX.DL_  23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +MSTSCAX.DL_  3.08.2004 23:59:44
+RDSKTPW.CH_  23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +RDSKTPW.CH_  17.07.2004 12:40:38
+SCRIPT_A.DL_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +SCRIPT_A.DL_ 4.08.2004 1:56:46
+SYSMOD_A.DL_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +SYSMOD_A.DL_ 4.08.2004 1:56:48
+TSCUPGRD.EX_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << +TSCUPGRD.EX_ 3.08.2004 23:59:28
\XPTHT41W.HT_ 23.08.2001 16:00:00  << \XPTHT41W.HT_ 17.07.2004 12:40:54
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Post by dj75lazer » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:06 pm

jbob wrote:Great! A poster on DSLReports posted a download link from Microsoft to the SP3 release. I downloaded it and it came down fast however......the file size and hash is different than the one that was found via P2P.
The thread post is here:
http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r203757 ... t-and-MSDN
Not sure why the file sizes are different. If anyone cares.
Edit: Actually he posted two links but the files at either link are of different size. I downloaded from the lower link.
Is just my opinion but i guess those 2 files are older version of SP3.
If you download them both you'll see: one of them is from 31.11.2007 and the other from 12.02.2008.

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:20 pm

Both links were deleted anyway.

krieger546, thanks for the info. The filedates are different but are the files themselves indeed different? I'm 85% sure they will be, but I'm going to confirm it here shortly.

Edit: I confirmed that the files are actually different. Just wanted to make sure. :)
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Post by w2sjw » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:27 pm

crashfly wrote:Further testing on SP3:

So far, it does not seem to be that big of a deal.
  • WGAN is not included at all. If you have an addon for that, I would suggest continuing to add that.
    KB941569 is not included (wmp codecs)
    KB890830 is not included (MRT)
Also appears to be an updated Windows Update Site. Not sure if I installed that or I just missed that update.

Otherwise, seems to be a pretty complete SP.

Edit:
The following addons are not included since SP3 is integrated and Ryan's update pack is not.
  • Adobe Flash Player 9.0.115.0 ActiveX Control
    Microsoft Qfecheck 6.2.29.0
    Microsoft Update 7.0.6000.381
However, xable has all of these updates on his site. Go here to add those to a SP3 installation.
Thanks a million for the heads-up! xable had everything I needed!

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Post by crashfly » Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:31 pm

w2sjw wrote:Thanks a million for the heads-up! xable had everything I needed!
Not a problem. I can only hope that more people use this information.
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Post by w2sjw » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:15 pm

One last question - should I use his WGAN or WGAV?

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:21 pm

Yes, both.

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:30 pm

Both ? I need only WGAV to access the Windows Update Center.

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Post by roirraWedorehT » Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:38 pm

Need only WGAV for that, yes. WGAN may appear as an Automatic Update if you don't integrate it, however. If you know you don't want it and you control which updates you get, obviously you don't need my answer. :D

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