Hotfix Hunt for Windows XP SP2

war59312 · Post by **war59312** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 12:49 pm

So what other ones are needed?

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 1:06 pm

Great keytotime, now Ryan can create the 1.1 update pack

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Sat Jan 22, 2005 4:57 pm

Thanks. It was fun.

sdageforde · Post by **sdageforde** » Sun Jan 23, 2005 9:41 pm

You guys do some amazing work.

Now, I sit drooling for the next package that comes from the mind of the geniuses...

@RyanVM: If you need a mirror PM me, I might be able to come up with space by blind FTP.

ksec · Post by **ksec** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 10:57 am

Yah....... how much bandwidth do you need?

I got a 40Gb monthly transfer hosting account sitting here doing nothing.........

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 24, 2005 12:25 pm

, I'm currently using about 50-60GB/month, and that's likely to go up to ~80+GB in the near future (1.1 is going to be 100+% larger than 1.0.5).

Like I said in another thread, bandwidth isn't an issue for me currently. It won't be until June unless I get a better host. If possible, I'd like to keep everything on the same server, as that makes things far less complex. Unless someone wants to write me a PHP download script, that is

. If someone wants to help with that, send me a PM.

war59312 · Post by **war59312** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 1:23 pm

Looky here:

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... layLang=en

Post by **RyanVM** » Tue Jan 25, 2005 3:55 pm

First, you don't need to post the same thing in two threads. Second, like I said in the other thread, if it's on Warp2Search or Neowin, I know about it already.

war59312 · Post by **war59312** » Wed Jan 26, 2005 12:23 am

OH ok cool.

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 5:43 pm

A new update list has just arrived

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:04 pm

It's time for fun.

Edit:
Superseeded by KB889085:
KB888083 - The "Write these files to CD" option is not available in Windows Explorer after a Group Policy setting is applied in Windows XP
KB873392 - If you delete or add folders in a network-shared folder, Windows Explorer does not show the change in Windows XP

Superseeded by KB887589:
KB872789 - Logging off or restarting the computer after switching users may cause Windows XP to stop responding

Post by **RyanVM** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:40 pm

HOLY FRICKEN HELL

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 6:54 pm

So many updates and not even one is made available for download

I'll have to love the pinguin for that I guess...

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Sun Jan 30, 2005 7:18 pm

I can imagaine a ms press release. It has been less than 6 months after the release of sp2, which is the future of xp. We have already released over 60 updates for it. Including numerous for supercritcal, xp components. We apologize.More to come.P.S., you can't most of those updates.

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:29 am

So, now it's becoming apparent that 1.2 is going to be coming sooner than I thought

I've got some other ideas in mind for 1.2 as well.

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 7:06 am

Removed

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:10 am

Thanks key2time, you are blazing fast,

only 2 to go

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:49 am

Partially Superseeded by KB888404 :
KB885898 - Initialization phase of a Setup program may take longer than expected to complete in Windows XP
only Msi.dll, in KB888404 msiexec.exe is not included

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 8:59 am

Ryan, I don't mind if 1.1 get delayed.

If you release a 1.1 and an 1.2 version in 1 month you can get into bandwidth problems. It's not that difficult to add these updates for 1.1.

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 10:04 am

No, I won't run into bandwidth problems.

That being said, I might delay 1.1 anyway just because I'm thinking it'll be annoying to release 1.1 this week and then 1.1.1 next week when new security patches arrive.

neil · Post by **neil** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 11:02 am

keytotime wrote:It's time for fun.
Edit:
Superseeded by KB889085:
KB888083 - The "Write these files to CD" option is not available in Windows Explorer after a Group Policy setting is applied in Windows XP
KB873392 - If you delete or add folders in a network-shared folder, Windows Explorer does not show the change in Windows XP

I don't think KB888083 is superceded by 889085 as according to MS, 888083 has the newer shell32.dll by 5 hours! version + size are identical in both.
It should be the other way around, as 889085 only contains one file (shell32.dll) and 888083 has the newer timestamp.

EDIT: It's actually the right way round in hp38guser's long list, so ignore this post.

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 12:23 pm

Frankly, I don't think the time stamp matters anyway. Build number should be all that matters.

And yes, I've decided to push back 1.1 in favor of 1.2. It helps mesh better with some other changes I want to make (think automatic integration without nLite

), and gives me more time to work on the site. Like I've said previously in other threads, bandwidth really isn't an issue until June when I move off campus. However, I will most certainly have a new host by then anyway with a LOT more bandwidth

. Plus, I've already started using one of the mirrors offered to me for the beta releases people have been trying out. Aside from having a slow upload rate, the download speeds seem to be nice and fast with it.

If 1.2 isn't ready to go by next week, I'll probably make a quick 1.0.6 release with any new security patches MS releases for the time being.

I want to make sure that 1.1/1.2 are done right, so I'm willing to take extra time to ensure that. 1.1 is running quite solid with all the testers at least, so things appear to be going well

.

a06 · Post by **a06** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:18 pm

ALL the hotfixes listed in the first thread of this post are going to be included in 1.1/1.2?

That's a TON more than are already in there...

How do you guys find out about these and apply them, if they are not released?

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:24 pm

Read the tentative 1.1 changelog on the second page of the 1.0.5 thread. Anything that's light blue is in 1.1. All of the teal ones will be in 1.2.

However, since 1.1 will not be getting a public release, yes, they'll all be in 1.2.

And you get the hotfixes by emailing them and asking.

a06 · Post by **a06** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:34 pm

but how do you know a hotfix is even available to e-mail a request?

does this mean that a clean XP-SP2 + RyanVMUpdate1.2 will be BETTER than XP-SP2 + all windows updates? since there are all these 'unreleased' updates?

why aren't they released, anyway?

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:46 pm

Click on one of the links to the KB articles. Read it. It'll make sense if you do a little reading.

a06 · Post by **a06** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 1:52 pm

A supported hotfix is now available from Microsoft, but it is only intended to correct the problem that is described in this article. Only apply it to systems that are experiencing this specific problem. This hotfix may receive additional testing. Therefore, if you are not severely affected by this problem, we recommend that you wait for the next Windows XP service pack that contains this hotfix.

So it doesn't NEED to be installed (unless you have the problem), but COULD be (without adverse effects)?

And this hotfix WOULD eventually surface, in WinXP-SP3. Correct?

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 2:51 pm

a06, this is indeed the PRE-SP3 list, so likely these patches are ment to be used in Windows XP SP3.

Using many, or all patches should work, as the developers of Microsoft are using these too.
Nevertheless it is unsupported, so no calls to MS, but to Ryan

a06 · Post by **a06** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 3:50 pm

ok, just making sure i understand correctly.

Post by **RyanVM** » Mon Jan 31, 2005 4:30 pm

hp38guser wrote:so no calls to MS, but to Ryan

....

:shock:

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 6:14 am

Removed
So i guess the fun is over

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 7:06 am

keytotime, always look out for new fixes.

Check out http://www.kbalertz.com, news sites etc to find updates...

You may write them down in this topic.

Post by **RyanVM** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 9:56 am

Well, I've begun the long trod towards getting all this stuff in a usable form

. Thanks to Hive2INF, it shouldn't take very long once I get some time to just sit down for a few hours and do it.

Of course, this week had to be midterm week for my classes too.

war59312 · Post by **war59312** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 10:30 pm

Midterms already, dang. College?

I'm at USC and we just started class two weeks so going to be awhile. Half the darn class does not even have the darn requried books due to screw ups.

Post by **RyanVM** » Tue Feb 01, 2005 11:30 pm

Yeah, college. We work on quarters.

war59312 · Post by **war59312** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 4:56 am

oh ok Yeah forgot some places stil do that. :p

So you like quarters better than semester? Just wondering.

School has been asking a few months now if anyone was willing or wanted to take quarter classes. Dont really know anything about it so.

But dont want to get too off topic.

Thanks everyone for all the hotfix....doing a great job...

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:59 am

war59312 wrote:oh ok Yeah forgot some places stil do that. :p

So you like quarters better than semester? Just wondering.

School has been asking a few months now if anyone was willing or wanted to take quarter classes. Dont really know anything about it so.

But dont want to get too off topic.

Thanks everyone for all the hotfix....doing a great job...

Quarters are fine once you get used to them.

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 1:30 pm

Ugh, just finished the INF work. Now to see if it actually works

war59312 · Post by **war59312** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 5:06 pm

Whoooo!! Nice!

I'm just glad you enjoy doing this as I know its a lot of work and time consuming.

Need another beta tester I'm always around.

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 02, 2005 8:54 pm

Yeah, it's time consuming alright.

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 12:20 pm

You didn't have any side effects by applying all these patches Ryan?

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Feb 03, 2005 8:36 pm

None that I can see in VirtualPC anyway. That's what I'm hoping the public beta on real systems will tell me

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 2:57 pm

I'm subscribed to the KBAlertz email updates now, but haven't actually gotten any yet.

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:13 pm

New fixes:
KB892099

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:13 pm

So far only MDAC 2.8 hotfix package is released. I'm not quite sure if MDAC 2.8 comes with XP SP2

Here's the link anyway:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839801

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 3:13 pm

hp38guser wrote:So far only MDAC 2.8 hotfix package is released. I'm not quite sure if MDAC 2.8 comes with XP SP2

Here's the link anyway:

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/839801

Yeah, it does. I'll take a look at it.

EDIT: I just looked at the file versions. XP SP2 comes with 2.81 and the files post-version all of the files in that hotfix.

Acheron · Post by **Acheron** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 6:37 pm

Some new post-sp2 fixes added.

However since more and more people becoming SP2 MCE users I would suggest to also include those updates. Meaby as an addition so pure XP SP2 users shouldn't have to download them. I marked those updates white.

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 7:17 pm

bah, i'm not gonna bother with those those are only for mce. Also regarding your question on how good are the hotfix's. I've used Ryan's pack on my network of over 500 pc's and the only thing i've noticed was an uilateral increase in speed and performance.

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Feb 16, 2005 8:28 pm

, I guess that's a good sign

keytotime · Post by **keytotime** » Thu Feb 17, 2005 7:32 am

Removed

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