Finnished ISO Sizes?

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Stevea
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Finnished ISO Sizes?

Post by Stevea » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:05 pm

Think I might be doing something wrong here.....

Started with a XPSP1 - to a Slipstreamed SP2 disk.

Slipstreamed SP3 with the Integrator v 1.5.3 comes out to 655mb as an ISO.

Then added RVMUpdatePackSP3_1.0.0a7z now its only 534mb as an ISO.

Both installed into Virtual PC2007 without problems........ so the question is what happened to the other 121mb?

Don't get me wrong the extra space will come in handy but is something missing?

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Post by ccl0 » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:36 pm

why did you slipstream sp2 and then sp3?

you could have just gone from sp1 -> sp3.

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Post by 5eraph » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:44 pm

ccl0 is correct. Service packs are cumulative: SP3 includes SP1 and SP2.

It is normal for the source to shrink when using the Integrator and an Update Pack. The Integrator will combine SP?.cab and Driver.cab. This removes redundant files in both and provides much better compression overall.
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Post by Stevea » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:46 pm

No had a slipstreamed sp2 disk to start with, just used that one first as a test...

with a little more digging, i am seeing that the cmpnents, docs, dotnetfx, support, and valueadd folders did not make it into the final ISO .. but it installed into virtualpc 2007 without a hitch.

humm, somethings not right here, how could it install without the other folders??

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Post by 5eraph » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:50 pm

Those folders are not needed to install Windows. They're for user support. The Integrator intentionally does not copy them to save space. If you want them, you'll need to copy them yourself.

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Post by Stevea » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:55 pm

So this is not the full version of XP but a trimmed down version?
the update pack removed the unneeded files?

posted before you edited....

What are the other files for exactly?

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Post by 5eraph » Sat Aug 30, 2008 8:58 pm

It is the full version. Windows installs everything it did before using the Update Pack, and now includes updated files.

The RyanVM Integrator simply left out files that are rarely used. Who puts their CD in the drive to read the documentation or install .NET? Most people forget their CD until it's time to reinstall anyway. ;)

What those files are depends on whether you have Home or Pro. But both include documentation and .NET. Pro also includes utilities for automating the installation process that very few people actually use.

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Post by Stevea » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:15 pm

Humm, should have specified that is was xppro, and that i was planning to integrate software and drivers this time around to see just how well it actually worked and to save time installing apps.

i have to have .net for some apps to work, i can integrate those easy, but unattended install would probably need some of the other folders.

have a little more homework to do i guess

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Post by 5eraph » Sat Aug 30, 2008 9:30 pm

The dotNET folder is only used by SETUP.EXE in the autorun menu. It cannot be used for unattended installaions. Additionally, the installer is extremely out of date.

Unattended installations use none of the other folders. Only WINNT.SIF, which you create yourself.

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Post by bphlpt » Sun Aug 31, 2008 12:01 am

5eraph is correct. The ONLY folder of all the ones you mentioned that you MIGHT need is the cmpnents folder, and that only if you want to add in Media Center or Tablet PC addons, and even then, those addons usually include their own version of that folder. So effectively, you will never use any of those folders no matter what you want to do for addons or unattended installation.

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