Missing updates and are hotfixes safe

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Missing updates and are hotfixes safe

Post by Rhuaidhri » Sun Oct 12, 2008 12:59 am


First off I would like to say thanks, I'm a first time user but very impressed so far.

I meant to post this a while back but got busy. I had been about to slipstream a new post SP3 disk when I found out about the pack here so I had already gotten a list of various updates I'd need.

Having gone through the list in the Pack here I have a few updates that are not included. Maybe they have been superceeded by others, if so please tell me so I can leave them out.


On that last one I know msxml4sp2 with kb941833 is listed but kb941833 is for vista systems I thought?

I know the latest 0ct08 security stuff will be out soon too so that list will grow.

Does anyone have a link to an actively updated list of post SP3 updates?

Also how safe are the hotfixes, I would have thought hotfixes should not be applied unless you have a system where you are getting the problem or are hotfixes fairly tightly coded and given a bit of testing before being released these days.
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Post by redxii » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:27 am

XP SP3 already contains MSXML 6 w/ KB933579. Though, even some of MS's own programs are really stupid in the method of detecting MSXML 6 and will claim it isn't installed. Like the "Windows Automated Installation Kit" relies on a single registry entry that isn't present by default in SP3, instead of actually checking the msxml files themselves.

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Post by 5eraph » Sun Oct 12, 2008 2:54 am

Regarding your list:I don't know of an actively updated list of XP SP3 updates other than what's in the update packs maintained on this forum.

As far as the hotfixes go, they're fairly safe. They are tested privately by Microsoft to some degree before release. Finding a bad one is usually quite rare.

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Post by yumeyao » Sun Oct 12, 2008 4:24 am

KB953323 -> kb950668
KB944505 -> kb955567
KB955843v3 -> KB955843v4
KB957201----this one is timezone fix, but is not CUMULATIVE timezone fix. meanwhile it doesn't supercede kb951072.
kb957495----this one is not necessary for english OS, since it deals with an issue on non-english OSes.
kb956588-----a strange hotfix, seems not directly integratable...
kb954434-----contains exactly same files of KB951126, so no need to be integrated.

this is the list i'm keeping..... it is made up by any hotfixes that is out later than Update Pack of Sept, 2008.

and below one is some old hotfixes which is not included in the Update Pack but contains newer files than SP3 RTM.

regarding KB887606 obsoleted by KB941833.(msxml4):
you must take notice that the hotfix for msxml4 is CUMULATIVE, so yeah kb941833 is tend to be used to fix some issue in vista, yet it also fixes some old issues i.e. what described in kb887606, etc.
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Post by Rhuaidhri » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:19 am

Thanks for the replies guys, it is exactly the kind of response I was hoping for.

I have another list of hotfixs so I'll check it against what has been posted here and the update to see if any have been missed. They are all dated post SP3 RTM.

Is there a MS site where they are announced or that you can sign up to be notified like with the security bullentins or a is it only if your a Technet subscriber?

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Post by 5eraph » Sun Oct 12, 2008 9:43 am

You could try KBAlertz. I usually keep an eye on Xable's Hotfix Share.

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