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Post by tomasz86 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:55 am

Hmm, OK, I don't really use / know much about QFECheck. I was thinking more in the direction of WU which only needs

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Post by 5eraph » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:05 am

All current update packs include QFECheck. It is part of a standard battery of tests I perform before releasing my own pack. WU only checks for the existence of high priority updates--not request-only fixes.

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Post by tomasz86 » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:10 am

Right. Although if you've installed a fix with newer files than the ones included in the high priority update then it shouldn't ask for it. Or am I wrong?

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Post by 5eraph » Sun Oct 28, 2012 2:14 am

You are correct. But it is nice to know that all applied updates are current, including those not checked by WU.

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Post by shiner » Sun Oct 28, 2012 5:50 am

acus wrote:komm has found another HF for IE8:

2762509
How are you all getting this hotfix?
I can't get jack from MS or MDL.

Can someone up a temp mirror?
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Post by shiner » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:02 am

thanks tomasz86,

that link got the ball rolling and after jumping through a few hoops I got the zip file with the hotfix inside.
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Post by OnePiece Alb » Sun Oct 28, 2012 1:14 pm

acus wrote:komm has found another HF for IE8:

2762509
and an old story since the time of IE7, Microsoft always releases every week these types of hotifx, are hotfixes that you should not use them because after a few days are already in the Cumulative security update for Internet Explorer, for this reason certain hotfix have never been used or put into IE AddOns (for many years in thehotfixshare.net you'll see that some hotfix are always out every weekdays at, also the same update 3-4-5-6 times in one month ect ect)

in poor words I want to say this is not a new update, and an update which is also published every week for many many years

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Post by user_hidden » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:43 pm

so let me know if anyone is experiencing the same as me ?

using IE8 i can no longer download request only hotfixes as the captcha doesn't display.
i can download and request with no problem using firefox !!!

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Sun Oct 28, 2012 8:50 pm

it happens also with google chrome the same, I think it happens once, but after a few hours later and still all OK hmmmmmmmmm

I only use firefox for years, but I know this, because a ITA user reported it to time ago

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Post by ricktendo64 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 1:57 pm

Looks like the latest vc 2012 runtimes now support XP, found this in the new installer
[ProductName] can only be installed on Windows XP SP2 and newer platforms.
This was in the old
[ProductName] can only be installed on Windows Vista SP2 and newer platforms.
Can somebody test the files and confirm?

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Post by tomasz86 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 3:39 pm

It may be a "bug" in the installer. I've just checked them very briefly in Win2k and there are still NT6 APIs there. Just in case someone should check them in XP though.

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Post by shiner » Fri Nov 09, 2012 4:54 pm

I would like to help.

Rick, the installers you uploaded work fine on XP. Both installed without errors.

Now, how do I test the files to see if they actually work on XP?
Does anyone know a harmless app that requires the files to function properly?
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Post by tomasz86 » Fri Nov 09, 2012 11:36 pm

@shiner

The most basic one:

http://www.dependencywalker.com/

You should check dependencies of the files.

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Post by ricktendo64 » Sat Nov 10, 2012 1:01 am

I'm curious, how does the previous VC 2010 compare with 2012 in the XP compatibility test

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Post by shiner » Sat Nov 10, 2012 3:46 am

Here is my report on the msvc 2012 files using DependencyWalker,

These files appear without errors when loaded in depends.exe:
msvcp110.dll
msvcr110.dll
mfc110chs.dll
mfc110chst.dll
mfc110deu.dll
mfc110enu.dll
mfc110esn.dll
mfc110fra.dll
mfc110ita.dll
mfc110jpn.dll
mfc110kor.dll
mfc110rus.dll

These files have errors which appear to be similar if not identical to each other:
atl110.dll
mfc110.dll
mfc110u.dll
mfcm110.dll
mfcm110u.dll
vcomp110.dll

The problem being that the following files are missing from my system:
efsadu.dll
ieshims.dll
wer.dll

However, when I load the version 10 of those files in depends.exe I get exactly the same result. (@Rick)

Finally two files were not copied to system32 by the installers:
vcamp110.dll
vccorlib110.dll

Someone else will have to explain what it all implies as far as WinXP is concerned.

Edit:
Just for kicks, I dropped AcroRd32.exe (version 11.0) into depends.exe, and I get a similar result, that is, red entries because of:
efsadu.dll
ieshims.dll
wer.dll

but also now:
ncrypt.dll

is missing.
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Post by shiner » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:15 am

The Visual C++ 2012 Redistributables in “Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\VC\redist\1033” have not been updated to include Windows XP support. For this preview release, please use static linking when targeting Windows XP or deploy the C++ runtime DLLs from “Microsoft Visual Studio 11.0\VC\redist\<architecture>” inside your executable’s installation folder.
from here

My understanding of reading that blog and a few others is that the official vc 2012 redistributables for XP will be released when Visual Studio 2012 Update 1 goes Final, (currently at CTP (community technology preview) 4, THIS month.

So we just need to be patient.
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Post by tomasz86 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 1:57 pm

Let's "hope" that it's true ;)

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Post by shiner » Sun Nov 11, 2012 4:20 pm

tomasz86 wrote:Let's "hope" that it's true ;)
Not only that, but net45 may also be changed to support XP in the next few month as well.

It seems MS needs developers for Win8 (badly), but many are balking because of lack of support for XP, so they are requesting for MS to change their policy.
MS may have to bend their stodgy policy to accommodate them, though the XP versions will not have complete functionality due to differences in the OS's.
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Post by ricktendo64 » Sun Nov 11, 2012 7:17 pm

Where did you see this?

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Post by shiner » Sun Nov 11, 2012 10:25 pm

Rick,
Give me a little time to re-find the links.
It was an intense googling session and I didn't bookmark many of the blogs I read.

Well, I can't find the key post on net45/xp compatibility that was dated this month.

Anyway here are a couple more links for anyone interested in XP & ms visual studio topic.
SupportXP
MS UserVoice (don't forget to read the comments)

I should just stop posting and wait.
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Post by acus » Thu Nov 22, 2012 12:28 pm

Blackwingcat has found a new version for Root Certificates [November 2012] (KB931125) v36.0.2195.5

Link to his post:
http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/149233- ... p__1019445

Link to file:
http://www.download.windowsupdate.com/m ... otsupd.exe

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Post by tomasz86 » Thu Nov 22, 2012 1:17 pm

It's v37.0.2195.5 ;)

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Post by adric » Sat Nov 24, 2012 1:30 am

It's v37.0.2195.0 :wink:

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Post by shiner » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:08 pm

Microsoft Visual Studio 2012 Update 1 Final has been released.

Microsoft Visual C++ 2012 Redistributable (x86) - 11.0.51106 (and other platform versions) are located on that page.

This version installed successfully on my XP machine.
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Post by ricktendo64 » Mon Nov 26, 2012 4:24 pm

Sweet, will add it to my pack

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Nov 27, 2012 11:32 pm

Thanks, Rick. :)

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Post by acus » Thu Jan 03, 2013 1:53 pm

The user cgthamm has submitted some IE8 XP hotfix at http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.p ... showcat=13

KB980077 contains: iepeers.dll 8.0.6001.22995, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=980077
KB982063-v2 contains: iertutil.dll 8.0.6001.23022, mshtml.dll 8.0.6001.23022, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=982063
KB2310253 contains: ieframe.dll 8.0.6001.23143, urlmon.dll 8.0.6001.23143, http://support.microsoft.com/?kbid=2310253

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Post by ricktendo64 » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:22 pm

All appear to be superseded

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Post by acus » Thu Jan 03, 2013 2:43 pm

Hi Rick,

the file version is higher than that in last IE8 update, but you are right these HF have been published in 2010/2011.

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Post by 5eraph » Thu Jan 03, 2013 4:42 pm

Thanks, user_hidden. :)

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Post by acus » Thu Jan 10, 2013 1:19 pm

KB2785487 for WinXPSP3 & Win Server 2003

http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2785487

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Post by ricktendo64 » Thu Jan 10, 2013 2:12 pm

Sweet, thanks

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Post by ricktendo64 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:18 pm

New TimeZone update out

KB2794119

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Jan 22, 2013 1:47 pm

Thanks, Rick. TZ blog hasn't even posted about it yet. :D

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:02 pm

KB2793313 isn't really an update as much as a registry workaround.

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HKLM,"SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Control\Lsa","LmCompatibilityLevel",0x10001,3

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Post by ricktendo64 » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:22 pm

Thanks, added

Edit: I just noticed I already had this tweak as part of KB968389

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Jan 22, 2013 7:49 pm

Somehow I missed that. :oops:

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:25 pm

Microsoft must be near the upper file version boundary with the IE8 cumulative updates. QFE files in KB2792100-IE8 don't match the registry entries because of [OverrideVersionNumbers] in update_SP????.inf.

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Post by ricktendo64 » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:31 pm

I was going to say the same thing, the numbers are for the GDR branch...first I thought I had to FORCE with the /B:*QFE switch but I got the same results both times (verified using the pe checksum that the files were indeed the QFE branch)

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Feb 12, 2013 3:53 pm

I always use the /B switch. Thought it stopped working until I tried installing in 2k3x64 and checked the GDR file versions.

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Post by shiner » Wed Feb 13, 2013 6:46 am

5eraph wrote:Microsoft must be near the upper file version boundary with the IE8 cumulative updates. QFE files in KB2792100-IE8 don't match the registry entries because of [OverrideVersionNumbers] in update_SP????.inf.
There is something very peculiar going on with the registry version numbers, file checksums, and dates. I think it's more than reaching an upper limit on verion numbers. My installs of the five IE8 updates to bring it up-to-date on different XPSP3 systems result in different version numbers, checksums, and dates in the registry for those updates. I am very limited on time until March 5, so I can't dig into this more right now.
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Post by ricktendo64 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:39 am

TimeZone hotfix KB2821346

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Post by tomasz86 » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:49 am

Thanks Ricktendo :)

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thanks Rick

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Post by ricktendo64 » Thu Mar 21, 2013 10:54 am

New TZ hotfix but it seems the XP version is not available yet http://support.microsoft.com/kb/2829069

Edit: it is now

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