Update kb982671 mislukt na integreren van Microsoft.Net_11SP

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Update kb982671 mislukt na integreren van Microsoft.Net_11SP1+35SP1_NLD_Add

Post by Attended » Tue Nov 02, 2010 10:13 pm

Hoi, allereerst wil ik iedereen die bijdraagt aan dit prachtige project voor de hobby-isten hartelijk bedanken :)

Ik ben al enkele jaren bezig geweest met nlite enzenz... maar nu ik hier wat rond gelezen heb ben ik eens met ryanvmintegrator aan de gang gegaan en ik heb voor een kennis van me het volgende geprobeerd te doen met een oem xp sp3 nl iso en de originele code die op de sticker van de pc staat:

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01. I unpakked the original iso with nlite to a folder
02. Integrated "UpdatePackSP3_2.10.0.7z" using ryanvmintegrator
03. Integrated "NoError_IE8_WinXPSP3_v2.10.1_AddOn_NLD.7z" using ryanvmintegrator
04. Integrated "Addon_DirectX32_9.0c_Runtimes_201006.7z" using ryanvmintegrator
05. integrated "Microsoft.Net_11SP1+35SP1_NLD_Addon_20101003.cab" using ryanvmintegrator
06. Tweaked some things, inserted the original oem key using nlite
07. Integrated masstorage (incl. txt mode), cpu, chipset, lan and wlan driverpacks (driverpacks.net)
08. Deleted LANG folder from i386 to downsize the iso for cd
09. Copied the 4 files, obtained by using "OEMFiles.cmd", to the i386 folder
10. Used nlite again to make a bootable iso and burned it to cd also using nlite
11. I installed the pc but still it needs to be activated
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Excuses voor het gebruik van de engelse taal voor de opsomming maar zoals je ziet was het oorspronkelijk bedoeld om een oem cd te maken voor een acer aspire e360 en het activatie gedoe legaal voor die pc te vermakkelijken, gezien het max aantal keren dat je het via internet mag doen van microsoft en dat gebel na iedere herinstall kost alleen geld.

Maar nu is mijn vraag hier de volgende:

na dit alles in de getoonde volgorde gedaan te hebben (eerder ook al met een xp pro variant geprobeerd maar dan met de "aio .net addon") krijg ik de update "kb982670 .net4 framework client profile..." en "kb982671 .net framework 4 voor windows xp x86" aangeboden via microsoft update en "kb982670" gaat wel goed maar "kb982671" mislukt steeds (foutcode: 0x80246002).

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Post by jaynbe » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:03 am

KB982670 is included in the .NET_AIO_Addon and NOT included in .Net_11SP1+35SP1_NLD_Addon.

KB982671 installs the extended tools for .NET4 developers with ASP4.NET and Visual Studio 2010
This is an optional update and, unless you do (web)development, a Client PC doesn't need them.

Google for your error and you'll find out that it is a common error requiring manual installing.
http://wiert.wordpress.com/2010/08/20/s ... -kb982671/

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Post by Attended » Wed Nov 03, 2010 3:36 am

Thanks for your quick reply Jaynbe,

I knew, the update (KB982670) wasn't included in the .net addon I used this time. I mentioned it to illustrate that the .net4 client profiles update did install just fine but KB982671 didn't. I thought it was a small bug in the addon pack and because nobody mentioned it before I did and also because I had the same problem with KB982671 using the ".net AIO addon" in an earlier attempt.

If it's not needed at all for normal windows users why do they offer it to us via windows/microsoft update? They will solve the install via update problems within a short time, I hope?

I'll try the solution i got via your google-link, thanks again and keep up the good work.

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Post by jaynbe » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:07 am

If it's not needed at all for normal windows users why do they offer it to us via windows/microsoft update? They will solve the install via update problems within a short time, I hope?
MS offers it as an "optional" update and not as an automatic security patch.
Optional because some people do (web)development and may need ASP4.NET.

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Post by Attended » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:31 am

All .net updates are kind of optional, aren't they? I was only trying to make an 100% updateless installation cd for my friend, that's all.

So the difference between earlier .net (optional) updates and .net4 framework is that the earlier versions were sometimes needed by normal users to get drivers, thirdparty software, etcetc working and .net 4 is only usefull for developers. This also means it won't be integrated in an updated .net aio addon?

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Post by jaynbe » Wed Nov 03, 2010 4:43 am

Not really, with .NET4 MS made a light version for (most) client PC's (called .NET4 Client Profile) and a full version for developers.
Don't forget that the .NET runtimes are frameworks for easy development of applications with Visual Studio.

So the short story is that the .NET4 Client Profile contain the user runtimes needed for newer applications developed with Visual Studio 2010.
The older .NET3.5SP1 does the same for applications developed with Visual Studio 2008.

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Post by Attended » Wed Nov 03, 2010 5:03 am

Now I fully understand you, thanks for your answers.

During our conversation i've installed my friends pc again, this time i used an original xp home sp3 NL oem install cd and i've manually updated windows and guess what? Update KB982671 installed via microsoft update without any errors, a bit confusing.

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Post by Attended » Wed Nov 03, 2010 12:10 pm

Ben even opnieuw begonnen met integreren en heb nu de ".net aio addon" en "c++ runtime addon" meegenomen en nu werkt de ".net4 framework" update met zijn vervolgupdate wel goed.

Jaynbe, I started all over again now using ".net aio addon" and "c++ runtime addon" and now everything works at microsoft update.

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