XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack for Windows XP Post-SP3 20180109

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Post by soporific » Tue Jan 26, 2010 7:03 pm

user_hidden wrote:KB956572 shows "current on system" with qfecheck.
perhaps it is one of your addons in integration that is causing your error.
the hotfix in the update pack is fine.
I think you're right ... my VM tests show that it's not needed but my real world tests are bringing it up. I will try to work out which one of my other addons is causing it and i will report back.

my 2 cents regarding adding WMP11 and IE8 to this update pack: the addons by yumeyao for IE8 and WMP11 work perfectly so there is no need at all for user_hidden to include them.

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Post by mr_smartepants » Tue Jan 26, 2010 8:15 pm

I agree, keep IE8/WMP separate addons. Although, even M$ is advising users to ditch IE6/7 like a bad habit.
No problems with v1.17.
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Post by phox » Wed Jan 27, 2010 12:10 am

@all

Let me make myself clear concerning IE8 and WMP11 integration:

1. I am very grateful to user_hiden for providing and maintaining XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack.
For my means and purposes it is optimal and I have already installed it nearly hundred times.

2. I am pretty sure that MS will include IE8 and WMP11 in XP SP4.

3. Why not have it before MS, if it’s not too much work for maintaining of update pack?

Thank you all participating in this short discussion!

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Post by mark strelecki » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:03 am

phox -

If your suspicions prove correct, and IE8 and WMP11 ARE included in XP SP4, it'll be be just one more reason to keep the status quo and move forward with SP3 and trusted update packs.

I for one hope you're wrong on this one.

Best wishes, otherwise!


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Post by 5eraph » Wed Jan 27, 2010 1:31 am

At this time, Microsoft does not plan to release any further service packs for Windows XP. Microsoft has repeatedly tried to end the availability of XP; the most recently announced end date I can find is April 2011, or when a Win7 service pack is released, whichever is sooner.

I'm with user_hidden: Keep IE8 and WMP11 out of the pack and allow the users their choice of versions and integration methods. This is the philosophy I follow in my own pack.

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Post by Bhishmar » Wed Jan 27, 2010 2:40 am

user_hidden wrote:
phox wrote:@user_hidden
.....................
I kindly ask you to include IE8 and WMP11 in XPSP3_QFE ................
at this time i will not add wmp11, ie8, dx9, silverlight, etc.....
you can use stand alone addons for each of those which are readily available on the forums.
........
i find it better when you add what YOU want to the integration.
I also SECOND this sensible approach, and do not want any change in your current strategy....
Having flexibility, along with reliability on the base-UpdatePack is the KEY.
( Flexibilty in selecting any addon + the best among multiple choices )

appreciate ur great work. KIU
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Post by phox » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:05 am

I just wonder, how many of you install IE8 and WMP11 after integration of XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack?

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Post by adric » Wed Jan 27, 2010 9:33 am

Here's my current list of addons/switchless installers included in every RVMi build that I do:

Code: Select all

XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack_1.1.7_20100122.7z
Kels_Runtimes_addon_v6.rar
YumeYao_IE8_Addon_Nosetuperr_ENU_1_3_3.7z
YumeYao_WMP11_Addon_ENU_V3_3_2.7z
DirectXRuntimes-200908-Addon-32.7z
DotNetFX35SP1_20091024_Addon_ENU.cab
flashaio.exe
java6u18.exe
Silv3u05.exe
MassStorageAddons_IaStor_8.5.0.1032.7z
RogueSpearAddonsM2-XPSP3-NoKtD_8.09.7z
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Post by yiuc1 » Wed Jan 27, 2010 10:41 am

Hi, just wanted to say that I just started using your update pack and I think it's wonderful. It works perfectly. Thanks! :)

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Post by Bhishmar » Sun Jan 31, 2010 9:18 pm

adric wrote:Here's my current list of addons/switchless installers included in every RVMi build that I do:

Code: Select all

XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack_1.1.7_20100122.7z
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MassStorageAddons_IaStor_8.5.0.1032.7z
RogueSpearAddonsM2-XPSP3-NoKtD_8.09.7z
Al
Adric, How long have u been using the massstorage addons, & how reliable are they in this rvm-integrator mode?
Also once u boot with such a disk on a sata system MB, which sata drivers it will install : IDE or AHCI?
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Post by adric » Mon Feb 01, 2010 6:13 am

The problem I originally had, had to do with AHCI being enabled in my BIOS. I kept getting a bluescreen when I tried to install XP from CD. When I disabled AHCI to use SATA compatibility mode which I assume treats the drive as IDE, I was able to install without adding any drivers. I had the same problem with my BART-XPE recovery boot cd. It would always crash with a 0x0000007b BSOD if AHCI was enabled, until I added the Intel Matrix Storage Manager Floppy drivers at:

http://downloadcenter.intel.com/Detail_ ... 5&lang=eng

Once this worked on the BART-XPE boot CD, I went looking for a solution to use with RVMi which ended up being the Roguespear addons.

You may also want to look at this thread for additional infos:
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=8101

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Post by kevineaton » Mon Feb 01, 2010 9:45 am

sorry guys if im being really thick here. i want to download the latest addon pack. i want whatever is the closest to ryans pack mehtod, as i have never had a problem with that approach.

can you tell me whose pack i should download and where to find it please?

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Post by adric » Mon Feb 01, 2010 2:13 pm

kevineaton wrote:
can you tell me whose pack i should download and where to find it please?

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I would suggest going to page 1 of this thread and download that pack.

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Post by Bhishmar » Wed Feb 03, 2010 6:59 am

adric wrote:The problem I originally had, had to do with AHCI being enabled in my BIOS. I kept getting a bluescreen ..................
Al
Thanks for ur input. I am aware of all these things.
But my question to you, was to get an idea on the reliability of this RVMi method, to integrate iastor-masstorage addons, so that booting & install of Windows-XP goes ahead successfully on SATA systems with AHCI-mode enabled in BIOS.

By reliability what I meant is whether this is compatible (no error) in different mother-boards /different configurations, both hardware & selection of software/addons. Obviously you yourselves would not be able to test on all possible configurations. But since you already havebeen doing it, I thought you have done some research & read about others experiences in various forums (possibly including Roguespears) etc etc. Just share ur experiences,
how long u being using it, Are there any negative side-effects to including this addon etc etc.
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Post by adric » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:24 am

Sorry, I can't help you there. I had this problem on a new laptop. The drivers solved that problem for me and allowed me to leave AHCI enabled without it crashing when trying to install from CD or HD. I would expect the Intel mass storage drivers to be as reliable as one can expect from a manufacturer such as Intel.

My research ended up with two choices:

1. enable compatibility mode with no additional changes
2. add necessary drivers to the install CD/HD and recovery CD

I have noticed no ill effects with these drivers included on my BART-XPE CD when booting from other machines where I helped
friends that were having problems with their PCs

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Post by Bhishmar » Wed Feb 03, 2010 9:45 am

Thanks adric for ur inputs.
adric wrote:I have noticed no ill effects with these drivers included on my BART-XPE CD when booting from other machines where I helped
friends that were having problems with their PCs
Al
Do u mean to say u
(a) first use RVM integrator to integrate the mass-storage drivers (RogueSpear addons) on Windows-XP-SP3, to create Windows-XP-SP3-Updated (Integrated) source (CD or image), & then
(b) Run Bart PE utility on this integrated source to create a BartPE Boot CD ?

I am curious to know how u achieved this? First I thought BartPE requires an unmodified source, & that too Win-XP-SP2!

Also by "ill-effects", i did not mean basic reliability of intels-drivers. But effect of integration of two Roguespear addons, which critically impacts on the text-mode setup phase, and its possible interaction with other addons.
regds

@UH: Sorry to Hijack ur thread on these possibly off-topic queries. If this discussion gets dragged on, I will create a new thread & shift it there.

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Post by adric » Wed Feb 03, 2010 10:17 am

No, for BartPE, I used the F6 floppy drivers. For the RVMi install CD I used the RogueSpear Addons.

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Post by berhart » Tue Feb 09, 2010 12:45 am

Will the new DirectX Redist be included with the update pack tomorrow?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... B8109CB4F5

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Post by DaRk MaDnEsS » Tue Feb 09, 2010 2:38 am

berhart wrote:Will the new DirectX Redist be included with the update pack tomorrow?

http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... B8109CB4F5
Directx won't be included in this package

and user_hidden

shouldn't the

Windows XP SP3 WBEM Fix

be removed since it got fixed in Rvm Integrator ?

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Post by user_hidden » Tue Feb 09, 2010 7:37 am

DaRk MaDnEsS wrote: shouldn't the

Windows XP SP3 WBEM Fix
be removed since it got fixed in Rvm Integrator ?
i think nlite needs it?
if not i can remove it.

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Post by yumeyao » Tue Feb 09, 2010 8:04 am

not. nlite fixed it earlier than RVMi.
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Post by user_hidden » Tue Feb 09, 2010 6:37 pm

updated 1.1.8 20100209 .....

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Post by soporific » Tue Feb 09, 2010 10:42 pm

user_hidden wrote:updated 1.1.8 20100209 .....
Thanks, that was so quick :)

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Post by shiner » Wed Feb 10, 2010 4:13 am

Thanks, your efforts are much appreciated.
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."

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Post by mr_smartepants » Wed Feb 10, 2010 2:57 pm

KB955759 - AppCompat update for Indeo codec: December 08, 2009
KB969084 - Remote Desktop Connection 7.0 client update for Remote Desktop Services (RDS) for Windows XP SP3

On XP Pro SP3 with integrated MCE I get the following errors using 1.1.8.
KB955759 gets reported in WU/MU as a needed critical update.
KB969084 gets reported in qfecheck as "This hotfix should be reinstalled".

*Edit
Disregard. The problem is caused by XPtsp.
No errors without XPtsp integrated. :)
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Post by user_hidden » Wed Feb 10, 2010 3:41 pm

mr_smartepants wrote: *Edit
Disregard. The problem is caused by XPtsp.
No errors without XPtsp integrated. :)

no problemo

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Post by adric » Wed Feb 10, 2010 6:25 pm

user_hidden wrote:
no problemo
I just noticed that KB973525.cat is still in the 1.1.8 build although you indicated that it was replaced by KB978262. Was that an oversight?

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Feb 10, 2010 7:07 pm

adric wrote:
user_hidden wrote:
no problemo
I just noticed that KB973525.cat is still in the 1.1.8 build although you indicated that it was replaced by KB978262. Was that an oversight?

Al
yup, and btw i was just thinking where is adric ? :D
has no ill effects and will be removed on next release.

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Post by vodacuza » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:23 am

works awesome, excepting the garbage updates (win live essentials...win search...), MU reports only one thing missing:

KB979099
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

could it be from 3rd party integrated pieces or is a newer update ?

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Post by yumeyao » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:57 am

KB917275 -> KB979099
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Post by adric » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:44 am

@user_hidden

I'm not sure if the information missing is caused by the update pack, but here are a few nits that I noticed when using Windows Updates List
from Nirsoft.(this time in pictures): :lol:

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Post by vodacuza » Thu Feb 11, 2010 10:17 am

yumeyao wrote:KB917275 -> KB979099
Well, I am not sure if it is a replacement however 979 is newer and it was detected by MU. we will wait for the fix that removes the innocent but ghost .cat file and also include kb979099 over or instead of kb917275, although they might by called the same only differ by the version..might address to different things, MS says nothing or I cannot read it

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Post by adric » Thu Feb 11, 2010 11:08 am

Here's a heads up on KB977165

http://www.krebsonsecurity.com/2010/02/ ... -xp-users/

Might be malware though :(

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:29 pm

adric wrote:Here's a heads up on KB977165
Might be malware though :(
Al
so far no bad effects from KB977165.

as for your winupdatelist stuff:
KB971276 - was installed by you logged into account SYSTEM on your pc.
it is not part of the update pack.

all others have been localy fixed and i'll upload a new pack a little later
after i have it tested.

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Feb 11, 2010 1:31 pm

vodacuza wrote:works awesome, excepting the garbage updates (win live essentials...win search...), MU reports only one thing missing:

KB979099
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

could it be from 3rd party integrated pieces or is a newer update ?
OPTIONAL listed update like the others you named above, not being added to the pack.

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Feb 11, 2010 4:28 pm

updated 1.1.9 20090211 ....

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Post by vodacuza » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:16 pm

thanx :) will try it this night, not going to sleep without making a new kit and installing the classic style, not vmware :wink:

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Post by adric » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:52 pm

user_hidden wrote:
as for your winupdatelist stuff:
KB971276 - was installed by you logged into account SYSTEM on your pc.
it is not part of the update pack.

all others have been localy fixed and i'll upload a new pack a little later
after i have it tested.
Hmmmm .. this is wierd because the system where this information is from has no network connectivity. The wireless and ethernet drivers have
yet to be installed since XP does not support the networking hardware out of the box. I don't see the cat in the svcpack dir that I use to build
the system, but I do see it on the system after it was built. Might be one of the switchless installers.

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Feb 11, 2010 6:55 pm

adric wrote: Hmmmm .. this is wierd because the system where this information is from has no network connectivity. The wireless and ethernet drivers have yet to be installed since XP does not support the networking hardware out of the box. I don't see the cat in the svcpack dir that I use to build the system, but I do see it on the system after it was built. Very strange. I have no idea how this happened.

Al
yup very weird since like i said KB971276 is not included in the pack.
i have it included in my dotNet Framework 3.5 SP1 Family installer.

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Post by adric » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:11 pm

Okay, you answered while i was editing my post. Not so weird after you mentioned .NET I used yumeyao's ".NET 3.5 For Windows XP/2k3,
.NET 2.0 For Windows 2000/XP/2k3, Last Updated 2009/10/24" switchless installer so that explains that.

Sorry for the false accusation. :P

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Feb 11, 2010 7:45 pm

adric wrote:Okay, you answered while i was editing my post. Not so weird after you mentioned .NET I used yumeyao's ".NET 3.5 For Windows XP/2k3,
.NET 2.0 For Windows 2000/XP/2k3, Last Updated 2009/10/24" switchless installer so that explains that.

Sorry for the false accusation. :P

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Post by ccl0 » Thu Feb 11, 2010 8:59 pm

anyone read about this? http://social.answers.microsoft.com/For ... 92b69f2fd1
seems to be a problem related to KB977165

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Post by vodacuza » Thu Feb 11, 2010 9:55 pm

yes clandren, it seems MS has a problem, a new 8) blue one .

About the post sp3 pack I've tested it, runs fine here MU only says i lack 2 high priority upds:

forgot to mention that those upds initially did not appear, but as I was interested to see what upds are released for office xp and 2k3...I've recollected them both english and those into my language (need it for direct integration with office integrator too) and although I uninstalled all office cleaned the temps, the registry... it appeared those 2 upds as being higly recommended ... I think it is garbage if did not appear firstly

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Post by maddog » Fri Feb 12, 2010 1:59 am

Adobe just release Flash Player version 10.0.45.2....

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Post by user_hidden » Fri Feb 12, 2010 7:17 am

maddog wrote:Adobe just release Flash Player version 10.0.45.2....
for next release ...

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Post by sonicwaves » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:29 am

user_hidden wrote: RyanVM, Xable, Redxii, 5eraph including myself have taken a different approach.
Hi, thanks so much for making this update pack - could you please post probably a line about how your pack is different from 5eraph's pack when you get a chance?

Thanks for your time.

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Post by mr_smartepants » Fri Feb 12, 2010 10:50 am

sonicwaves wrote:Hi, thanks so much for making this update pack - could you please post probably a line about how your pack is different from 5eraph's pack when you get a chance?.
You mean apart from the fact that U_H's updatepack is for x86 and 5eraph's updatepack is for x64? ;)
Here's a good explanation of the differences between QFE and GDR updates.
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7592
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Post by speedy859 » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:19 pm

I've been having this odd issue where if I integrate this pack (using RVMi 1.6) on clean XP Pro SP3 and XP Home SP3 sources and then make a multiboot disc using XP PowerPacker, this one update (KB955759) shows up when I run Microsoft Update. If I tell MU to install it, nothing seems to change; the update remains listed when I run MU again.

Weirder is that this issue does not present itself when I don't make a multiboot disc (i.e. just burn the slipstreamed XP Pro disc by itself). I'm not using any other update packs or anything. Anyone encounter this?

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Post by 5eraph » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:39 pm

user_hidden wrote:
maddog wrote:Adobe just release Flash Player version 10.0.45.2....
for next release ...
You may want to consider a new release soon. The Flash update deals with two security issues.
Adobe wrote:A critical vulnerability has been identified in Adobe Flash Player version 10.0.42.34 and earlier. This vulnerability (CVE-2010-0186) could subvert the domain sandbox and make unauthorized cross-domain requests. This update also resolves a potential Denial of Service issue (CVE-2010-0187).

Adobe recommends users of Adobe Flash Player 10.0.42.34 and earlier versions update to Adobe Flash Player 10.0.45.2.

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Post by sonicwaves » Fri Feb 12, 2010 2:44 pm

mr_smartepants wrote:
sonicwaves wrote:Hi, thanks so much for making this update pack - could you please post probably a line about how your pack is different from 5eraph's pack when you get a chance?.
You mean apart from the fact that U_H's updatepack is for x86 and 5eraph's updatepack is for x64? ;)
Here's a good explanation of the differences between QFE and GDR updates.
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7592

Oh wow. Another layer of difference, another decision! Thanks. :)

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