XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack for Windows XP Post-SP3 20180109

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Post by =[FEAR]=JIGSAW » Wed Jul 15, 2009 10:27 am

Thx :wink:

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Post by feup » Wed Jul 15, 2009 7:19 pm

Tnanks user_hidden.

You forgot KB9555704 in changelog 8)

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 15, 2009 8:53 pm

feup wrote:Tnanks user_hidden.

You forgot KB9555704 in changelog 8)
was a typo KB855704, fixed.... :lol:

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Post by mr_smartepants » Thu Jul 16, 2009 12:41 am

No problems here. Excellent work!
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Post by Bhishmar » Thu Jul 16, 2009 9:41 pm

Now that it is decided to include the KB 955704 (exFAT File system support: for > 32GB), I have the following question to any expert here, who may be using the old & precious disk management tools like PartionMagic-8 & NortonGhost-20003 or even Norton Ghost-ver8.2/8.3?

Are these tools rendered INVALID & UNUSABLE by this change? http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=94829#94829

If so it is a very sad development, for system-geeks who heavily rely on such tools for recovery & maintenance!
Let me fervently hope it is NOT SO.
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edit: Correction PartitionMagic Ver6 to Ver8
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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:50 pm

You rely on Partition magic 6???

:X WTF man. Google gparted and try that. Its free and much more powerfull. I can't count the # of systems partition magic has eaten in my experience with it. LOL v6 doesn't even support ntfs.

As for norton ghost it should work fine, but I haven't tried it yet.

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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Thu Jul 16, 2009 10:52 pm

Partition magic 8:

Key TechnologiesPartitions hard drive
Create, resize, copy partitions
Run multiple operating systems
FeaturesDivides hard drive into two or more partitions
Runs multiple operating systems on the same PC
BootMagic™ makes it easy to switch between operating systems
Copy, move, resize, split, or merge partitions
Guides you through the partitioning process
Easy to find, copy and paste files in both Windows® and Linux® partitions
Create and modify partitions up to 300GB*
Supports USB 2.0, USB 1.1, and FireWire® external drives**
Supports and converts partitions among FAT, FAT32, NTFS, Ext2, and Ext3 file systems
Enlarge an NTFS partition without restarting computer
Resizes NTFS system clusters to the most effective size

So you will need to use version EIGHT not SIX.

Nortton ghost 14:
Supported File Systems and Devices
FAT16, FAT16X, FAT32, FAT32X
NTFS
Dynamic Disks
Linux® EXT2/3 and Linux Swap Partitions

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Post by rtruell » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:02 pm

I have a system running Windows XP MCE 2005 SP2 that's been manually upgraded to SP3. No other updates have been applied to the system. Can this post-SP3 update pack be manually installed on the system?

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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Thu Jul 16, 2009 11:05 pm

No none ofr these update packs are made to be applied manually.

Google autopatcher. Thats the thing you are lookimg for.

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NortonGhost-ver8.2/8.3 & PartitionMagic-8 Tools Usability exFAT- Impact

Post by Bhishmar » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:23 pm

Kelsenellenelvian wrote:You rely on Partition magic 6???
PM6 was a mistake (read it as PM8). But I agree, PM8 itself is over-strecthing things. My real intention was NortonGhost-2003, ver8.x etc. Only thrown in PM8 just to see how much compatibility is there.
I am allergic to NG-v9/10/12/14 since it depends on .NET. I am happy if the earlier two tools (old versions) are valid for exFAT.

I expected someone with expertize in this field could throw in some experience hints or even some theoretical insight/analysis.

Say for example, if the new exFAT drivers is only modified so as to interpret correctly an already formatted(existing) FAT32-drive ( >32GB), and the formatting-tool coming with new exFAT is NOT significantly different from old FAT32 format-tool, except that the constraints preventing it from creating > 32GB is eliminated.

The earlier para is pure speculation from my part, but this is quite possible, since as is reported elsewhere in these forums that, even the older windows (winxp-sp2) could function correctly with a FAT32 drive > 32GB, created with some other formatting tool. By "function correctly" what I mean is that WinXP-SP2 can be installed into it (>32 GB FAT32 partition) or other existing NTFS partitions, and most of the software including diskmanagement software will work successfully on this FAT32 partition.
(i.e the 32GB limitation is not that of windows, but that of its native formatting tool).


Can some expert confirm this? or show more light.
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Post by Bhishmar » Fri Jul 17, 2009 5:32 pm

Kelsenellenelvian wrote:Partition magic 8:

Key Technologies
Partitions hard drive
Create, resize, copy partitions
Run multiple operating systems

Features ......
..............................
Create and modify partitions up to 300GB*
.............................
Supports and converts partitions among FAT, FAT32, NTFS, Ext2, and Ext3 file systems
.......................................

So you will need to use version EIGHT not SIX.

Norton ghost 14:
Supported File Systems and Devices
FAT16, FAT16X, FAT32, FAT32X
NTFS
Dynamic Disks
Linux® EXT2/3 and Linux Swap Partitions
Even PM8, whether it supports exFAT? Are u sure from experience?
Or an educated guess?
Regarding NG-v14: I am allergic to all NG versions- v9/10/11/12/14, since they all depends (needs) .NET.

I am sure, u must be knowing exFAT is different from FAT32X.

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Post by ccl0 » Fri Jul 17, 2009 7:16 pm

i don't see what the big deal is with exFAT. isnt ntfs better? everything i read exFAT is mostly for usb flash drives or something.

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Post by feup » Sat Jul 18, 2009 12:28 am

exFAT is faster than NTFS.

It was developed for multimedia devices because files larger than 4GB can't be stored in FAT32 ant NTFS was too slow for them.

I'm think it can be handy in other cases, for example, with NTFS I have trouble with my external hard disk in college, local policies are applied by default in all NTFS partitions and I don't have permission to edit some files in my own disk... With FAT32 is fine but can't store files larger tha 4GB, so, in this case exFAT is a good solution for me.

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Post by pepoluan » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:07 am

Great job, user_hidden! :D

Now I don't have to spend eternity waiting for my WinXP installs to update. :)

Been using Heise's wonderful offline updater, but it still takes some time (and several reboots) to fully update a newly-installed system.
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Re: PM8 NortonGhost Compatibility

Post by pepoluan » Sat Jul 18, 2009 1:11 am

Bhishmar wrote:Even PM8, whether it supports exFAT? Are u sure from experience?
Or an educated guess?
Regarding NG-v14: I am allergic to all NG versions- v9/10/11/12/14, since they all depends (needs) .NET.
Why are people so enamored of Symantec's tools?

I have weaned myself from them a long long long time ago, and now go exclusively Acronis.
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Re: PM8 NortonGhost Compatibility

Post by mr_smartepants » Sat Jul 18, 2009 2:02 am

pepoluan wrote:Why are people so enamored of Symantec's tools?

I have weaned myself from them a long long long time ago, and now go exclusively Acronis.
Indeed. Ghost sucks big monkey nuts! Acronis has saved my A$$ more than once and is a snap to use.
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Post by Bhishmar » Sat Jul 18, 2009 4:32 pm

clandren wrote:i don't see what the big deal is with exFAT. isnt ntfs better? everything i read exFAT is mostly for usb
flash drives or something.
Indeed NTFS is better (atleast for desktop-machines) & I mostly use only it. But I do have an additional partition formatted as plain old FAT32, containing essential recovery tools just for emergency. I also have multi-boot configured, so that I can boot into DOS and access this FAT32 partition. Most of the system-maintenance-geeks, will understand the need for this simple precaution, although there exists other recovery means also (bartpe etc). but i prefer the old-dos for emergency repair.

Then why am I my enamored so much with exFAT?
Answer is I am not. I do not want exFAT partitions for any of my desktop machines, atleast for the timebeing. (Reason being it will render all my painstakingly collected recoverytools USELESS, when disaster STRIKES!).

My concern is different, as follows. Probably my concern is quite misplaced!
Now exFAT driver comes default with the new "XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack....1.06 20090714", since it integrates KB 955704. For any new system installed with this pack, while installing or creating partitions, How many format options are there?
  • Case-A: Three format options: 1. ntfs, 2. fat32, 3. exFAT? OR only
    Case-B: Two options as earlier: 1. ntfs 2. second option is only exFAT, this being an advanced FAT32.
If it is the second case (Case-B) then only my concern is valid.
If it so then then any non-NTFS partition created by (within) windows will go exFAT way, creating allsort of nuisances, for repair/recovery in case of emergencies.

Can somebody who has installed a system this new pack, confirm how many format options appear in the pulldown menu for hard-disk format. You need not continue format.

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Post by mf3imp » Sat Jul 18, 2009 5:25 pm

Bhishmar wrote:How many format options are there?
  • Case-A: Three format options: 1. ntfs, 2. fat32, 3. exFAT? OR only
    Case-B: Two options as earlier: 1. ntfs 2. second option is only exFAT, this being an advanced FAT32.
If it is the second case (Case-B) then only my concern is valid.

Can somebody who has installed a system this new pack, confirm how many format options appear in the pulldown menu for hard-disk format. You need not continue format.
Case A. For disk < than 32 GB, ntfs, exfat and fat32 are avaiable, and for disk bigger than 32 GB only exfat and ntfs option (well know winxp limitation).

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Post by rtruell » Sat Jul 18, 2009 6:15 pm

Kelsenellenelvian wrote:No none ofr these update packs are made to be applied manually.
That's pretty much what I figured. Thanks.
Google autopatcher. Thats the thing you are lookimg for.
Cool. Turns out I already had autopatcher bookmarked in my "to check out when I have time" section...just haven't had time, since, as I'm sure you've noticed, hell hasn't frozen over yet :) Thanks much for the reminder...it is exactly what I'm looking for!!

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Post by LuisiLe » Sun Jul 19, 2009 3:20 pm

hi, i can not download your update pack from rapidshare.everytime when i download it stuck on 99 percent end stops as download erroe.ccan you put in on a-drive, hot file or megaupload? thanks. sorry for my english
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Post by Bhishmar » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:31 pm

mf3imp wrote:
Bhishmar wrote:How many format options are there?
  • Case-A: Three format options: 1. ntfs, 2. fat32, 3. exFAT? OR only
    Case-B: Two options as earlier: 1. ntfs 2. second option is only exFAT, this being an advanced FAT32.
If it is the second case (Case-B) then only my concern is valid.

Can somebody who has installed a system this new pack, confirm how many format options appear in the pulldown menu for hard-disk format. You need not continue format.
Case A. For disk < than 32 GB, ntfs, exfat and fat32 are avaiable, and for disk bigger than 32 GB only exfat and ntfs option (well know winxp limitation).
Thanks mf3imp.
As a Closure Note on "exFAT vs KB955704" concerns raised in my previous posts, let me clarify:
My concerns are NOT valid, & so there is no issue, since you can still format a partition into FAT32 (if < 32GB), using native windows tools. And for partitions >32GB also you can still format into FAT32, provided if you use an external tool.

Thanks.

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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Sun Jul 19, 2009 8:36 pm

Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.

My figures were takin straight from the publisher of the programs not personal experience.

I would say then that yes they are fully supported..

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Post by Bhishmar » Mon Jul 20, 2009 5:21 am

Kelsenellenelvian wrote:Sorry I didn't get back to you sooner.
My figures were takin straight from the publisher of the programs not personal experience.
I would say then that yes they are fully supported..
No need to be sorry. I appreciate your help, your time, & your addons.

As regard to my original concerns, they were quite misplaced, as I concluded above.

To summarize my updated understanding:
eXFAT is a new format option (3rd one), available in windows systems installed with KB955704, other than the existing two options of : 1.NTFS & 2. FAT32. Meaning you can still format your systems with a FAT32 partition, which can be used for emergency recovery/repair with all the old DOS tools & PM8/NG8 still valid.

But if you format any partition with exFAT format, then most of the old tools will be rendered USELESS. This is true for not only DOS tools but also windows tools like PM8, NortonGhost-8, Acronis, or whateever may be.

Vendors are yet to come up with diskmanagement (or repair/recovery ) tools which support exFAT partitions.

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Post by kaitsevaim » Mon Jul 20, 2009 7:09 am

This might not be related to this thread, but i have a different question. Is there a way to see linux partitions under windows? I mean if there are 2 OS-s. Primary is XP on NTFS on HD0 and 2nd IE Ubuntu on ext3 file system on HD1.
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Post by user_hidden » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:05 am

LuisiLe wrote:hi, i can not download your update pack from rapidshare.everytime when i download it stuck on 99 percent end stops as download erroe.ccan you put in on a-drive, hot file or megaupload? thanks. sorry for my english
i am actually out of town, if another user wants to post a secondary link that is fine.

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Post by SHO_GuN » Mon Jul 20, 2009 9:58 am

buaya posted this on page 2:

Oops - file was deleted for violation of TOS on download site.

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Post by buaya » Mon Jul 20, 2009 10:03 pm

SHO_GuN wrote:buaya posted this on page 2:

Oops - file was deleted for violation of TOS on download site.
That is bullocks from MU.
I deleted the file myself cos it was the earlier version of user_hidden's work which I hosted.

I have uploaded the lastest version of user_hidden's pack at: http://www.megaupload.com/?d=W7MEHMSN

which has been posted in an earlier post at the second page btw:
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... ght=#94693

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Post by feup » Tue Jul 21, 2009 1:25 am

kaitsevaim wrote:This might not be related to this thread, but i have a different question. Is there a way to see linux partitions under windows? I mean if there are 2 OS-s. Primary is XP on NTFS on HD0 and 2nd IE Ubuntu on ext3 file system on HD1.
http://www.fs-driver.org/

ENU_user made an addon of it:

http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6407

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Post by kaitsevaim » Tue Jul 21, 2009 4:14 am

thanx 8)
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Post by aiexbadboy » Tue Jul 21, 2009 6:17 pm

thanks for the hard work pal, ive been eagerly looking for a "post ryan update" since feb2009 lol, im glad i found this post :D :D

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Post by mindwarper » Sat Jul 25, 2009 11:51 am

Thanks for this very handy and well built pack,
actually have it running on my one system ,other is in the process to be partitioned (RAID 5 array of 2.0 TB, 5 IDE HDDs :P)

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Post by Jay » Sat Jul 25, 2009 5:37 pm

Faultless and very much appreciated Thanks user_hidden :D

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Post by ENU_user » Thu Jul 30, 2009 2:55 pm

anyone get "application error" when running the "ms time zone tool" : The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). ?

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Post by dareckibmw » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:14 pm

If you mean this, then yes.

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Post by ENU_user » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:38 pm

that's date & Time ;)

I was referring to "MS Timezone" (first time I ever ran this tool, btw... )

I 'm afraid I will need to set some localization settings to fix it but still curious to know if it runs correctly for y'all

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Post by mr_smartepants » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:43 pm

I think you mean this tool?
Sounds nice.
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Post by ENU_user » Thu Jul 30, 2009 3:51 pm

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:33 pm

ENU_user wrote:anyone get "application error" when running the "ms time zone tool" : The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). ?

works for me....are you reffering to check/sychronize the time with MS server from the "Internet Time" tab in the Date/Time Properties?

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Post by ENU_user » Thu Jul 30, 2009 4:56 pm

user_hidden wrote:are you reffering to check/sychronize the time with MS server from the "Internet Time" tab in the Date/Time Properties?
no, I have accidentally mistaken this tool to something that exists by default on XP.... apparently it had nothing to do with the updatepack ...but the absence of .net

thanks !
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Post by Botus » Thu Jul 30, 2009 5:46 pm

ENU_user wrote:anyone get "application error" when running the "ms time zone tool" : The application failed to initialize properly (0xc0000135). ?

I used user_hidden's dot net package with onepiece's update pack and timezone is happy


as your last post infurs ..... dot net problem ? timezone relies on dot net 2

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Post by vmanda » Fri Jul 31, 2009 7:19 am

Adobe Flash player ActiveX has been updated to 10.0.32.18

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Post by user_hidden » Mon Aug 03, 2009 8:54 am

vmanda wrote:Adobe Flash player ActiveX has been updated to 10.0.32.18
already added for next release.

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Post by user_hidden » Tue Aug 11, 2009 5:52 pm

updated 1.07 20090811 .....

major update so let me know if there are any issues.

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Post by Stefhan » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:16 pm

Just a small bug:
usbccid.sys is not in the INF directory
HKLM,"%SP4UPDATES%\KB967048-v2\Filelist\0","Location",0x0,"%17%"
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Post by Fleabus » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:18 pm

Thank you user_hidden.
Much appreciated.

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Post by user_hidden » Tue Aug 11, 2009 9:45 pm

Stefhan wrote:Just a small bug:
usbccid.sys is not in the INF directory
HKLM,"%SP4UPDATES%\KB967048-v2\Filelist\0","Location",0x0,"%17%"
typo, should have been %12% for the drivers.
pack was silently updated.

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Post by ccl0 » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:12 pm

KB905474 - Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications (Supressed MU Nag to Install)

is this the same (or similar) to this? http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... highlight=

i was including his in my build, but maybe its redundant?

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Post by SHO_GuN » Tue Aug 11, 2009 11:43 pm

What is the story with KB973690?

It does not show up when searching for it at M$ Downloads and there isn't any english hits for it on Google.

The GUI is messed up with this update pack when I try to install Office 2003 - my best GUESS is that this KB is the blame.

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Post by ricktendo64 » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:25 am

Thats a msi.dll update, if this reg entry is not set to 6002 (same version as the dll) then you will not be able to install any msi based installers

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HKCR,"CLSID\{000C101D-0000-0000-C000-000000000046}\DllVersion",,,"4.5.6002"
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=7454

http://support.microsoft.com/hotfix/KBH ... num=973690

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Post by SHO_GuN » Wed Aug 12, 2009 12:37 am

Looks like that reg entry is set correctly.

Office 2003 does install .... its just that the gui is messed up.

Specifically, after pressing the "Install" button after choosing the installation options, it changes to a screen that should show the installation progress, then maybe another progress screen, but for sure a screen where you press "Finish".

Instead of showing the progress as I cited and the finish screen, the progress screen just freezes while installation progresses and then just disappears without ever showing the end screen.



Edit: I downloaded KB973690 - it is the culprit. I ghosted back to last month's install and removed office 2003, then reinstalled it and all was as it is supposed to.

I removed it again, installed KB973690 and same problem as above.

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