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Windows 98 SE

Post by ozzy214 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 9:49 am

Will Ryans intergrator with win 98 se? I just loaded it on a machine and see their is a gazillion updates. I see there is a unrealease service pack of hotfixes over at major geeks. How can I combine this togeter?

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Post by Fencer128 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:44 am

Hi,

Simply put - no.

Even if someone went to the trouble of creating a RVM update pack for Win98SE that could work with the integrator, I doubt that the integrator could work with the Win98SE source without substantial work (point 1).

The download you found is completely separate to Ryan's work and not at all compatible (point 2). You would have to dissemble the update pack then put it back together in a manner to make it compatible with the integrator - then see point 1 ;).

I've not seen the integrator source code so I'm guessing really. Feel free to contact Ryan/Siginet/Paul365 to confirm though.

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Post by RyanVM » Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:05 am

Not a chance. Stick with the unofficial service pack which already exists. They've done marvelous work with it.
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Post by ozzy214 » Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:25 pm

Okay. I was just looking for a way to intergrate it into the CD. So I dont have to load winblows and then the service pack. I guess I will have to make it a switchless installer or sumthing then. Thanks though!

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Post by Kelsenellenelvian » Tue Feb 14, 2006 7:35 pm

The pack is intgreatable you just need to search their forum...

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Post by buletov » Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:42 am

ozzy214 wrote:Okay. I was just looking for a way to intergrate it into the CD. So I dont have to load winblows and then the service pack. I guess I will have to make it a switchless installer or sumthing then. Thanks though!
Actually, this service pack installs quite fast, so it's not a problem:
http://exuberant.ms11.net/98sesp.html

Also, have a look at this:
http://www.litepc.com/98lite.html
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Post by ozzy214 » Thu Feb 16, 2006 3:43 pm

Yes thats the pack I was using. I will just have to figure out how to integrate it. Its not the most inportant thing on my mind. The machine is only going to be a web server, but its something to keep myself occupied with. Thansk to everyone.

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Post by RyanVM » Thu Feb 16, 2006 10:50 pm

Win98 for a web server? Yeesh, do yourself a favor and just put Linux on it :P
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Post by ozzy214 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 6:50 pm

Never used Linux. And I got too much on plate to start now. LOL. <<SMILE>>

BTW...I am sorry I acted like a dickhead Ryan. Ya stuff is the SCHTNIZEY!!!

Windows runs so much better with these Hotfixes ya implementing. Its incredible.

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Post by Mrs Peel » Fri Feb 17, 2006 7:32 pm

ozzy214 wrote:Never used Linux. And I got too much on plate to start now. LOL. <<SMILE>>

BTW...I am sorry I acted like a dickhead Ryan. Ya stuff is the SCHTNIZEY!!!

Windows runs so much better with these Hotfixes ya implementing. Its incredible.
Ryan makes a good point tho. Windoze 98 is not suitable to be using on a web server box. As a web designer myself I wouldn't even contemplate using an OS for that which is not NT-based both for stability and for security reasons.

If you are trying to use Win98 because you are installing it on an older PC with minimal resources then I strongly recommend you to use Windows 2000 Professional. You can slipstream all the service packs and updates using nLite and then strip out all of the unwanted bloat to give you a small fast setup which would be perfect for using as a web server.

I used Win2k on an old 200MMX box here with just 128Mb RAM for a few years and it worked perfectly OK for the job. This was only on Apache 1.3.33 tho, so I can't say for certain if Apache 2 would tip it over the edge resource wise.

I think it is something you should certainly consider.

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Post by ozzy214 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:03 pm

You make some interesting points and I do have win 2000. But its not going to be a true server. I have never used apache, but I just wanted a file sharing server. So I can share files with friends. So I found easy file web shariing. And it allows connection on http and ssq lines. So secure and unsequre. Plus it has forumns too. So that is all I was going to use it for. A way for people to transfer things to me and vica cersa. Not a true page. Although yeah right. Maybe I will see if the 800 amd likes win 2000. It barely ran xp so thats why I put 98 in it.

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:21 pm

Is it Gentoo which has a bootable CD? It's a no risk way to try out Linux. All you have to do is boot from the CD and you can see exactly how Linux works with no permanent changes done to the system.
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Post by ozzy214 » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:28 pm

Who is Gentoo? Hmm mighty be worth a shot. I may get to in a bit. I did see a supported linux disk for 49.95 by some company. I was thinking of buying it...since they constantly put out updates and the like. Not like the copies from the universties that arent supported as much

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Feb 17, 2006 8:32 pm

Ah, Knoppix is what I was thinking of.
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Post by jaymcjay » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:44 pm

Gentoo is the one that compiles everything from source for that last li'l bit of performance. Knoppix is really easy though. FYI, Gentoo and lots of other Linux distros now have "live" CD's, which is pretty much what Knoppix is doing.

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Post by RyanVM » Mon Feb 20, 2006 6:45 pm

I'm going to move this thread to general discussion since it's really offtopic for this forum now.
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