Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Sat Oct 14, 2017 7:06 pm

@Lex24

.NET Framework 3.5 auto-installation can be easily disabled.

Replace the \i386\netfx35.in_ file in the SP4 slipstreamed disk with the following file found in patches-v3.1a.zip (Download from the Drive location).

\OC_PATCHES\NETFX35-OFF\netfx35.in_

To disable XPS Services as well, replace \i386\xpssvcs.in_ with the following file inside patches-v3.1a.zip:

\OC_PATCHES\XPSSVCS-OFF\xpssvcs.in_

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Lex24 » Sun Oct 15, 2017 12:35 am

Thanks. I have always been wondering if .Net installation can be somehow disabled natively, without turning to any third party applications like nLite.

I can also see a few other useful items in OC-PATCHES folder (BitLocker To Go, PowerShell, Windows Search). What is:

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WMPOCM-OFF
Does this just disable the installation of WMP v11 (and leaves some older version installed) or does it completely disable the installation of any version of WMP?

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Sun Oct 15, 2017 5:49 am

The WMPOCM-OFF will only hide Windows Media Player icon and prevent access to Windows Media Player. It will not remove any WMP11 files.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Stormit » Sun Dec 24, 2017 7:12 pm

Hi harkaz:

Just Wanted to say Have a Merry Christmas and a Great New Year.
:D
Shortcut to updates: http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com ... p+embedded

Hi All: I would just like to thank everyone here for there continued efforts to keep XP Alive!
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Here Are The XP files that you can download.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by ThatCuriousYui » Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:07 am

Any idea how can I integrated this SP4 pack to my Windows XP MCE 2005 ISO without being changed ISO's Services Pack number ?
STOSW

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by mockingbird » Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:42 pm

Here is a list of all the updates offered by Microsoft Update post-Harkaz' SP4 up to January 9th, 2018:

Priority
KB4041995
KB4042007
KB4042067
KB4042120
KB4042121
KB4042122
KB4042723
KB4039384
KB4034775
KB4025409
KB4026061
KB4025497
KB4025240
KB4022883
KB4022746
KB4020322
KB4022747
KB4024323
KB4025218
KB4018556
KB4018466
KB4018490
KB4014652
KB4014793
KB4014794
KB4015380
KB4015383
KB4012583
KB4012584
KB3196726
KB3194371
KB3196718
KB3198218
KB3198510
KB3183431
KB3191203
KB3185911
KB3178034
KB3170455
KB3161561
KB3161949
KB3153704
KB3149090
KB3145739
KB3139398
KB3139914
KB3140709
KB3126587
KB3126593
KB2926765

.net/IE8 Priority
2017-10 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4040968)
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4040685)
May, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4014585)
May, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4017101)
April, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4014580)
November, 2016 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.0, 4 on WES09 and POSReady (KB3189598)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3123055)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3127223)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3135986)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB3142027)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB3163248)

Also worthy of mention is this Optional update:
Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4039111)

which has something to do with a Wordpad fix.

EDIT:01/09/2018
I ran Microsoft Update again, and it came up with these:

KB4056941
KB4056615
KB4051956
KB4052303
KB4048968
KB4047211
KB4048970
KB4050795

.net/IE8 Priority
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 (KB2894843)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 (KB2979574)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2901111)
Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2836941)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2861189)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2844285)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2789643)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2742596)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2756918)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2729450)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2604092)
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 Update for Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB982168)
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4052978)

EDIT 2
3 more:
KB4025218
2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 3.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4055229)
2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 2.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4054178)
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:51 am

Abodi makes a real good dotnet installer, it installs all of them. Latest version has all updates thru nov2017. So I do recommend to peeps to use that, instead of the hours it takes to download and install the dotnet fixes thru MSupdate. Wonder if Harkaz would consider updating these other hot fixes, or, update file to be slipstreamed into the OS like the POS update pack

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by mockingbird » Thu Jan 04, 2018 11:26 am

GH0st wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:51 am
Abodi makes a real good dotnet installer, it installs all of them. Latest version has all updates thru nov2017. So I do recommend to peeps to use that, instead of the hours it takes to download and install the dotnet fixes thru MSupdate. Wonder if Harkaz would consider updating these other hot fixes, or, update file to be slipstreamed into the OS like the POS update pack
Here it is, for reference:
Name: dotNetFx_AIO_x86_20171010.exe
SHA1: 23ED96EEE306D77B55CB8C9ECE1AED06A2DB379B
SHA256: EAC6E49492AC463EE65F6515EA5A117265CC8BA12B5000C8F29145288785DB63

https://nofile.io/f/eHhtHDWHXF6/dotNetF ... 171010.zip
http://www.mirrorcreator.com/files/4AWJ ... .zip_links
From here:
https://forums.mydigitallife.net/thread ... epo.74197/

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Thu Jan 04, 2018 4:03 pm

yup, thats the one!! Thanks

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Lex24 » Sat Jan 06, 2018 1:50 am

GH0st wrote:
Wed Jan 03, 2018 8:51 am
Abodi makes a real good dotnet installer, it installs all of them.
I think that using Abodi's installer you can also install just a single version of .NET, if you choose so, using command line parameters. I can't find the link explaining that at the moment, but all the parameters should be shown if you run the exe file followed by /? from the command line (DOS window):

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dotNetFx_AIO_x86_20171010.exe /?

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Tue Jan 09, 2018 9:45 am

I have not read that, thought you may be correct. That said, I have made it a practice to just install all version, allow MSupdate to update them all and the optimize them, so in the end, its all good. Just did a fresh install, using the QFE and POS, sliped streamed into a sp3 edition of Pro, and used the 20171010 version of the AIO dotnet installer ... worked perfect!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by davidm71 » Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:01 pm

Hi,

I tried to run the SP4 update on a fresh install of Xp Tablet PC that I had just updated consecutively from SP2 to SP3 but your SP4 custom update failed and rolled back. Any ideas or error logs to see what caused it?

Thanks

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by cuzinbob02 » Thu Jan 11, 2018 12:56 pm

Davidm71; did you run a midsum file check on your SP4 exe download to verify the file was not corrupt? (Version: 3.1b
MD5: 7D2DB4F4C47355BB8C006DEF7A8AB563
SHA1: 2C868FEEE1C078B1CBB7E9A8B4D035ED936B6BEA
Date/Time Stamp: 8 March 2016 23:00:00 UTC
Size: 993 MB (1040964815 bytes)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by trevor12 » Fri Jan 12, 2018 8:15 am

mockingbird wrote:
Tue Jan 02, 2018 10:42 pm
Here is a list of all the updates offered by Microsoft Update post-Harkaz' SP4 up to January 9th, 2018:

Priority
KB4041995
KB4042007
KB4042067
KB4042120
KB4042121
KB4042122
KB4042723
KB4039384
KB4034775
KB4025409
KB4026061
KB4025497
KB4025240
KB4022883
KB4022746
KB4020322
KB4022747
KB4024323
KB4025218
KB4018556
KB4018466
KB4018490
KB4014652
KB4014793
KB4014794
KB4015380
KB4015383
KB4012583
KB4012584
KB3196726
KB3194371
KB3196718
KB3198218
KB3198510
KB3183431
KB3191203
KB3185911
KB3178034
KB3170455
KB3161561
KB3161949
KB3153704
KB3149090
KB3145739
KB3139398
KB3139914
KB3140709
KB3126587
KB3126593
KB2926765

.net/IE8 Priority
2017-10 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4040968)
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4040685)
May, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4014585)
May, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4017101)
April, 2017 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4014580)
November, 2016 Security and Quality Rollup for .NET Framework 3.0, 4 on WES09 and POSReady (KB3189598)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3123055)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3127223)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3135986)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB3142027)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB3163248)

Also worthy of mention is this Optional update:
Update for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4039111)

which has something to do with a Wordpad fix.

EDIT:01/09/2018
I ran Microsoft Update again, and it came up with these:

KB4056941
KB4056615
KB4051956
KB4052303
KB4048968
KB4047211
KB4048970
KB4050795

.net/IE8 Priority
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 (KB2894843)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 (KB2979574)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2901111)
Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2836941)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2861189)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2844285)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2789643)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2742596)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2756918)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2729450)
Security Update for Microsoft .NET Framework 2.0 SP2 on Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB2604092)
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1 Update for Windows Server 2003 and Windows XP x86 (KB982168)
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4052978)

EDIT 2
3 more:
KB4025218
2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 3.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4055229)
2018-01 Security Only Update for .NET Framework 2.0 on WES09 and POSReady 2009 (KB4054178)
will it be all in one update aka post harkaz sp4 update fpr windows xp english ?

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:04 pm

ThatCuriousYui wrote:
Thu Dec 28, 2017 7:07 am
Any idea how can I integrated this SP4 pack to my Windows XP MCE 2005 ISO without being changed ISO's Services Pack number ?
SP4 has a Service Pack 3 service pack number. This is required to receive POSReady updates. MCE 2005 system files are automatically updated to their latest versions.
davidm71 wrote:
Wed Jan 10, 2018 2:01 pm
Hi,

I tried to run the SP4 update on a fresh install of Xp Tablet PC that I had just updated consecutively from SP2 to SP3 but your SP4 custom update failed and rolled back. Any ideas or error logs to see what caused it?

Thanks
Do NOT perform the SP2->SP3->SP4 upgrade path (may encounter problems with the catalog files cache). Run the SP2->SP4 upgrade DIRECTLY

@everyone

Currently I have no plans/free time for a post-SP4 update pack. Firefox 52 ESR support will end in June 2018 and then it will be game over for XP (without a compatibility pack to install the latest versions of Firefox).
May I recommend focusing on supporting the latest browsers instead of trying to achieve everything in KernelEx-like projects.
An updated browser and ported security updates from latest OS releases is all we need to use Windows XP with relative safety and usability until this generation of hardware dies.

I will create a post-SP4 update pack/post-SP4 live installer (two separate files) at Windows XP second EOL - in May 2019. There are some issues with some updates and they cannot be included in service pack-style package until they are fixed by Microsoft or a third-party developer (I can sign most modified files in XP). Most recent example is the new buggy ntfs.sys file.

If a reliable and smart KernelEx project has been created to support latest Firefox/Chrome releases without breaking other apps, a new SP4 version 4.0 may be considered that will include the KernelEx along with the latest updates.
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by mockingbird » Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:09 pm

harkaz wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:04 pm
Currently I have no plans/free time for a post-SP4 update pack. Firefox 52 ESR support will end in June 2018 and then it will be game over for XP (without a compatibility pack to install the latest versions of Firefox).
May I recommend focusing on supporting the latest browsers instead of trying to achieve everything in KernelEx-like projects.
An updated browser and ported security updates from latest OS releases is all we need to use Windows XP with relative safety and usability until this generation of hardware dies.
Harkaz:

First, thanks for your wonderful work.

Second, regarding getting a browser to work in XP post-Firefox', there's already a Palemoon fork for this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/177125- ... on-for-xp/

Thanks again.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:00 pm

mockingbird wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 10:09 pm
harkaz wrote:
Mon Jan 15, 2018 5:04 pm
Currently I have no plans/free time for a post-SP4 update pack. Firefox 52 ESR support will end in June 2018 and then it will be game over for XP (without a compatibility pack to install the latest versions of Firefox).
May I recommend focusing on supporting the latest browsers instead of trying to achieve everything in KernelEx-like projects.
An updated browser and ported security updates from latest OS releases is all we need to use Windows XP with relative safety and usability until this generation of hardware dies.
Harkaz:

First, thanks for your wonderful work.

Second, regarding getting a browser to work in XP post-Firefox', there's already a Palemoon fork for this:

http://www.msfn.org/board/topic/177125- ... on-for-xp/

Thanks again.
I took a look at the New Moon browser.
It is a nice attempt but still has issues with sites like Youtube (will not display all video resolutions) and it is Firefox 52.9/ PaleMoon 27.7.0a2
Consider editing the User Agent String.

I'd like to be able to use the latest version of Firefox quantum (57+) on an XP machine. Has anyone looked into it?

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Dibya » Wed Jan 17, 2018 11:00 am

Firefox57 will require porting of Rust to XP which will require lot effort
I am trying to collect some money with my friend Peter to hire some devs to port Firefox and Chromium to XP!!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by mockingbird » Wed Jan 17, 2018 7:23 pm

harkaz wrote:
Tue Jan 16, 2018 6:00 pm

I took a look at the New Moon browser.
It is a nice attempt but still has issues with sites like Youtube (will not display all video resolutions) and it is Firefox 52.9/ PaleMoon 27.7.0a2
Consider editing the User Agent String.

I'd like to be able to use the latest version of Firefox quantum (57+) on an XP machine. Has anyone looked into it?
Harkaz,

The Palemoon fork works quite well, with ALL resolutions, but you have to take a minute or two to set it up properly:

1) Install the LAV codecs, which are offered in the first post (make sure to get either the 32-bit or 64-bit version)
2) Go to Options and uncheck 'async MSE', and check 'Enable MSE for WebM Video' as well as 'Enable MSE for MP4 video'
3) In about:config, set 'layers.prefer-d3d9' to 'true'

With D3D9 acceleration, the performance is superb, and on-par with modern browsers.

The only caveat is the vsync tearing. Though I think vsync tearing is only noticeable with nVidia cards in XP. Thanks to a custom script by my friend aztekk (Sorry, he does not allow me to share it), I personally skip HTML5 video in Youtube completely and stick with Flash (Flash videos have significantly less vsync tearing). That being said, ALL Youtube formats are fully supported with Palemoon set up this way.

I fully intend to switch over to this XP Palemoon fork once Firefox is discontinued on XP...

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by trevor12 » Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:25 am

I created along mockingbird post that lists all updates after sp4 harkaz update above all in one pack of updates. Unpack it on C drive and run install. bat. You can check content with your anitivirus or virustotal.com. I installed all updates manually one by one but I tried to make instal.bat that would makel batch installation. So far so good on my wxp machine. Maybe someone more skillful can improve my package if any error is in him, I am not IT expert.

https://uloz.to/!wSsbKKAzcP6g/hotfix-rar

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:12 pm

ok, I am reporting a problem, sharing observations, looking for an answer, fix, cure, work around ...

I have done many installs, starting last summer till just last week. I have a recurring problem, which seems to be associated to uSP4 installs only.

This problem is with the Microsoft update components not being installed and when I go to that update site, it does offer to install this, but often, almost always installs incorrectly. When it does install and gives me updates, it become broke again by the time I get to installing updates for office 2003.

What shows is the Cpu utilization in running at 100% (on one core) for hours on end. At that time I reboot, go back to the MS update sight, it offers to install the MS update component again, once I download it, it wont install it, or install over top of it, cause it says it is already there.

I have not been able to find a offline MS Update installer, which would be nice! Or maybe Harkaz would consider doing another version of uSP4, to include this being present on first boot. Ooooooooor, maybe Harkaz can make an updated package which we could use nLite to put into our future ISO. Kind of like the IE8 add on made by another.

I have done many installs, to include going to MS update before I have made any changes/tweaks/software install, just to verify its not me TWEAKING it to death, on a fresh install. besides, most of what I do (tweaks) been doing them for many many years ... not a problem till mid 2017 forward. All problems tied to MS Update components and them not being installed correctly/fully.

That said, ever install I have done using "5eraph" and "user_hidden", sometimes with IE8 pack, sometimes with out it. All work find, regarding MS updates. There are optimizations in uSP4, which gives me the extra speed I love, or maybe not speed, but lower latency, that comes with uSP4 installs.

any thoughts, ideas, can someone make an ADD-ON, which includes all the components of the update engine, that will install properly ... or ... is there an offline installer for this already. Meaning an installer I can use after first boot on a fresh install of uSP4.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by mockingbird » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:08 pm

GH0st wrote:
Tue Feb 20, 2018 12:12 pm
What shows is the Cpu utilization in running at 100% (on one core) for hours on end. At that time I reboot, go back to the MS update sight, it offers to install the MS update component again, once I download it, it wont install it, or install over top of it, cause it says it is already there.
I am almost certain that this problem disappears with a certain optional update. Which one? I don't remember, but I can get back to you. You definitely want to leave out Windows Search though when you do the optional updates.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Tue Feb 20, 2018 7:50 pm

in the past we have found three office 2003 updates that needed to be installed manually, which did fix the problem, this was back in Jun/July. Then same problem resurfaced in Sept, Oct, twice in december. I have done 5 installs in January and three installs in Feb, trying to figure this out.

I am interested if you find something else out!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by bphlpt » Wed Feb 21, 2018 2:24 am

@GH0st, it's not you. The problem lies entirely with MS and their update system, and has existed now for quite some time. It seems the problem has to do with pending and superseded updates potentially causing MU/WU to take up several days for updates to finally get identified and installed. So there is nothing that harkaz or anyone else can do to fix this problem. But there is a reliable way around the problem, from everything that I have read.

First, be sure you utilize https links to access MU/WU, not http, and be sure you have the latest version of Microsoft Installer, which I think is included with SP4. Then EVERY MONTH you should do as follows:

1) STOP and WAIT at least one or two weeks after patch Tuesday so that others can be the guinea pigs and not you. Currently, there are two updates that you should NOT install - KB4056615 and KB4074852, not counting the very confusing Spectre and Meltdown situation. If you really want to, you can try and install modified versions of those two KB's from heinoganda, which you can get by sending him a PM over at MSFN. You could also find out how to do-it-yourself by reading the previous 2-3 pages of that thread.

2) Manually install the latest IE8 cumulative update and any Office related updates that apply to your system, including those for any of the Office Compatibility Packs.

3) At this point , MU/WU SHOULD work correctly and fairly quickly to find any other applicable updates to your system. [ Be sure to hide any updates that you don't need or want such as those from (1) above.]

4) Once MU/WU shows itself to be as clean and updated as you want it, then leave it alone until the next month.  It used to work fine to check MU/WU daily or weekly if you wanted to, just to be sure you weren't missing out on anything. These days, leave well enough alone and only use it as infrequently as possible.  There are just too many problems with the system to do otherwise.  Why drive yourself crazy for no benefits?  Just my opinion.

There is, as yet, no permanent "fix" for this problem, and none is expected, so you will need to follow this procedure EVERY MONTH. AFAIK, this procedure works to update systems that have been installed with SP4, or the update packs from user_hidden or nanno fabio. It seems, from reports, that not every system, metal or VM, "require" this solution every month to get good performance with MU/WU, but, again from reports, this method always works. YMMV

I have found the most reliable and frequently updated threads on this issue to be over at MSFN List of updates to avoid the never-ending search on Microsoft Update, and POSReady 2009 updates ported to Windows XP SP3 ENU (the last 4-6 pages of that thread will probably get you everything you need).

Remember, read the instructions carefully and follow them completely.  If it doesn't work, try it again and do it even more carefully and slowly, double checking yourself at each step.  If it still doesn't work, come back, tell us exactly what you did, what you expected to happen and exactly what happened instead. Then maybe someone can help you. [This is good general advice on how to get the best results when you ask for help on any technical forum. The members on such forums are usually willing to help you, but most are not willing to do it for you.]

Good luck my friend!

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Post by GH0st » Wed Feb 21, 2018 1:28 pm

What your saying sounds totally correct, just for years I have been doing the whole PATCH TUESDAY thing, its my favorite day of the month. Guess I don't need it as bad as I thought.

Trevor12 posted a link to a downloadable file, which he says has all the updates in them, since Harkaz last updated uSP4. I did DL this and thought I would give this a try.

Last time I installed Office 2003, I just installed the SP3 to it, then the file converter and NO OTHER UPDATES from office, which seemed to work well. I just use WORD and don't need all that other crap. Would be nice to just be able to find a version of use WORD alone.

I will do another update this week, will try Trevor12 file and see how it works.

Also, to add, again, when I do install from the QFE and POS update packs I have ZERO issues with MU

Edit: To change name of Mockingbird to Trevor12

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Post by harkaz » Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:22 pm

If you add this, everything works ok with Office updates and any IE8 version.

HKLM,"System\CurrentControlSet\Control\WindowsEmbedded\ProductVersion","FeaturePackVersion",0x00000000,"SP3"

You can manually update to latest IE8 and add this key temporarily to get Office updates.

Then remove the key and rescan to get OS updates after March 2016.

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Post by GH0st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:25 am

trevor12 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:25 am
I created along mockingbird post that lists all updates after sp4 harkaz update above all in one pack of updates. Unpack it on C drive and run install. bat ... https://uloz.to/!wSsbKKAzcP6g/hotfix-rar
I just did a fresh install using uSP4 and on first boot I run this file which did a near pefect job. Great idea here!! Should be continued as an easy way to update the uSP4.

Requesting you add: Windows installer 4.5 (WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86), also would be nice to have Microsoft Update (not the same as Windows Update).

This is a great idea, which should be followed up on!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Post by trevor12 » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:39 am

maybe someone can take my hotfix.rar as basis for future work on another updates (in content of instal.bat there is shown what parametres I suppose to be to particular hotfixes - there ara generally two types of updates)

I will probably install future updates manually but it is easy from my archive to add another updates- add lines to instal.bat and manually downloaded update executable to the hotfix directory- but time order of updates is very important !

harkaz promised that after end of support PosReady in 2019 he will make final his postSP4 update

manually download updates is possible from

https://www.catalog.update.microsoft.co ... p+embedded

after clicking on the concrete hotgix there is necessary choose english version, but as posted above there is thread about concrete update if it is ok or it broke something

if mockingbird will post here again for example after 6 months with priority sorted future updates, I can make hotfix2.rar harkaz postsp4 update (but I would be glad if mockingbird check compatibility before post, nobody want to break installed system)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 12:06 pm

harkaz wrote:
Fri Feb 23, 2018 3:22 pm
If you add this, everything works ok with Office updates and any IE8 version.

HKLM,"System\CurrentControlSet\Control\WindowsEmbedded\ProductVersion","FeaturePackVersion",0x00000000,"SP3"

You can manually update to latest IE8 and add this key temporarily to get Office updates.

Then remove the key and rescan to get OS updates after March 2016.
This was not present in my most recent install (yesterday) and it did not offer any updates. I allowed it to try to update for 6 hours straight last night, nothing this morning at all.

What I notice on my end is ... it searches for update, I hear the HD crunching, then it stops, and this is when the icon in system try SHOULD pop up, offering updates from MS Update, but, instead HD crunching stop and the one core of my cpu goes 100% ... for ever. So this makes three installs that we NEVER get updates from MS.

This is a fresh install, I am will to test any other setting changes, registry additions, till we find something that works!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by bphlpt » Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:40 pm

Have you tried my suggestion above? You should only have to manually install 2-4 updates then MU/WU should work as expected for any other updates available. MU/WU response should just be a matter of minutes, instead of hours or days, with no CPU core usage of 100%. Why not give it a try? I know it's not the way that it SHOULD work, but if there is a way that has be proven to work ... Seems less trouble than beating your head against the wall as you are doing now. :)

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Post by GH0st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:12 pm

I have installed many (dozen+) updates manually, on this install ... still no updates

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 8:13 pm

when I do installs with the QFE/POS update packs, MS Updates is real quick and works like a charm

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Sat Feb 24, 2018 9:06 pm

bphlpt wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:40 pm
Have you tried my suggestion above? You should only have to manually install 2-4 updates then MU/WU should work as expected for any other updates available.
I read this in another forum, to install the latest IE8 update, Then Harkaz mentioned it, Thanks to bphlpt for putting this in the front of my mind, again ... Just downloaded "ie8-windowsxp-kb4074736-x86", manually installed it, reboot, updates are now downloading.

Thank you!!!!!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Mon Feb 26, 2018 10:57 am

Just did another reformat, testing again. Confirmed, installing the latest IE8 udpate, fixes the problem.

Trevor12's Hotfix package is good, Though I would consider taking out the .Net portions, as they are not all in there and another guy has an AIO.Net pack which installed all thru Jan2018.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Stormit » Mon Feb 26, 2018 7:51 pm

Hi: All

Maxthon v5.1.6.3000 latest browser still works with XP SSE2 Processors.
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Shortcut to updates: http://www.catalog.update.microsoft.com ... p+embedded

Hi All: I would just like to thank everyone here for there continued efforts to keep XP Alive!
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Here Are The XP files that you can download.
https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/ ... sp=sharing
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Fri Mar 16, 2018 8:56 am

These two updates should be avoided

KB4056615
KB4074852

They break the Microsoft Updates/Windows Update process and the cpu utilization hangs at 100% forever

My most recent OS install with uSP4, I did not install these. Then waited before installing March updates, which multiple peeps in MSFN forums said they had no issue, so I too installed March 2018 updates. All good!!
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:47 am

I also just installed Office 2003 with the "File Format Converters" so 2003 will use "Docx" file extension, as per posts by Tomcat76 in MSFN forums, there are certain updates to avoid and install manually.

KB4011605
KB4011607
KB3213641
KB3213644
KB4011715

Then install latest IE8 (KB4089187), reboot!

Thanks to "bphlpt" here at RyanVm forum and "Tomcat76" at MSFN forums!

Updated: 'bphlpt' prompted me in lower post to re-read original posts by 'Tomcat76', thus these updates listed above should be installed MANUALLY! I just tested it and all worked fine AND my computer has become less latent (faster) and I like it again! This post has been edited to show the correct info. :)
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by =[FEAR]=JIGSAW » Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:31 am

Noted

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Post by GH0st » Mon Mar 19, 2018 1:48 pm

=[FEAR]=JIGSAW wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 4:31 am
Noted
Sharing the knowledge, what these forums are all about!

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Post by PPSA » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:50 am

I've tried to apply it to a Windows XP SP3 "Black Edition" perfectly working installation. 4 times I've tried, 4 times I've failed. Errors after errors, reboot demands and, then, everything started from zero, "Installation Failed" messages, "Your original Windows files were replaced etc." etc. etc.
Finally, I went back to the restore point I CREATED (not the USP4' R.P. - which miraculously vanished) and "restored" the system (LOL). But everything was fucked up. Trying to acces whatever HDD or memory stick connected via USB results in BSOD. Same BSOD when, after I open a folder in "Explorer", I click on "Up". Same BSOD when I right-click "Recycle Bin". Same BSOD when I try to launch Reg Organizer or AVG PC TuneUp Utilities.
The main problem is that I can't even perform a Windows installation repair using the original "Black Edition" CD.
It's awesome & thrilling...

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:54 am

GH0st wrote:
Sat Feb 24, 2018 3:25 am
trevor12 wrote:
Sun Feb 11, 2018 9:25 am
I created along mockingbird post that lists all updates after sp4 harkaz update above all in one pack of updates. Unpack it on C drive and run install. bat ... https://uloz.to/!wSsbKKAzcP6g/hotfix-rar
I just did a fresh install using uSP4 and on first boot I run this file which did a near pefect job. Great idea here!! Should be continued as an easy way to update the uSP4.

Requesting you add: Windows installer 4.5 (WindowsXP-KB942288-v3-x86), also would be nice to have Microsoft Update (not the same as Windows Update).

This is a great idea, which should be followed up on!!!!!!!!!!!!
Responding to my post.

This has the greatest potential here. What Trevor12 did. If someone could take and REMOVE all the dotNet stuff, add Windows Installer 4.5 and all the newer updates except KB4056615 and KB4074852. Then the Abodi AIO installer can be used to update the dotNet's.

So who wants to modify what he has started and make a Live Installer Update Pack of it?

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Post by bphlpt » Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:58 am

GH0st wrote:
Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:47 am
These should be avoided:

KB3213641
KB3213644
KB4011605
KB4011715

Tomcat also listed KB4011607 to avoid, but it did not show on my recent (today) install/update, guessing his list needs to be updated.
Actually, that's not quite right. You might want to carefully read Tomcat's post again. While you are correct that KB4056615 and KB4074852 should be avoided, according to Tomcat the other hotfixes you list above should be installed manually, along with the IE8 Cumulative Security Update, in order to get MU working correctly and reliably. The title of the thread is a little bit misleading.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:46 am

GH0st wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 2:54 am
Responding to my post.

This has the greatest potential here. What Trevor12 did. If someone could take and REMOVE all the dotNet stuff, add Windows Installer 4.5 and all the newer updates except KB4056615 and KB4074852. Then the Abodi AIO installer can be used to update the dotNet's.

So who wants to modify what he has started and make a Live Installer Update Pack of it?
Well, just spend the last few hours downloading the newer updates (feb/mar), adding to BAT file, while also removing one bad inclusion (kb4056615) and deleting some duplicates, while also placing them in order, adding windows installer 4.5 (KB942288-v3-x86) and placing the lastest IE8 at the end. Also set to be @echo ON, so we can see whats going on. Also removed all dotNet updates. Recommending the Abodi AIO installer for that!

I will do a fresh install of uSP4 later today, and on first boot to desktop, I will use this to update. Should give me everthing. Then I will install dotNet thru the GUI, then use Abodi AIO to update those.

If all goes well, I will upload this file for others to use. Going to call is "EzyPzy post-uSP4 03.20.18". Pronounced EASY PEEZY

Edit to add: Read next post, I just did some more updates manually and IE8 one more time, now my computer has got speed back again, so will delay on next install. I will post my modified version of Trevor12's hotfix file later today. In case someone wants to try it!
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Post by GH0st » Wed Mar 21, 2018 5:49 am

bphlpt wrote:
Wed Mar 21, 2018 4:58 am
Actually, that's not quite right. You might want to carefully read Tomcat's post again. While you are correct that KB4056615 and KB4074852 should be avoided, according to Tomcat the other hotfixes you list above should be installed manually, along with the IE8 Cumulative Security Update, in order to get MU working correctly and reliably. The title of the thread is a little bit misleading.

Cheers and Regards
10-4, I will take another look and see if I can find them to download/install MANUALLY!

Edit to add: That I just downloaded each, installed each manually and latest IE8 ... worked like a charm AND my computer seems alittle faster too. Was just getting ready to do another install cause I could feel a little extra latency over all, almost not perceivable, but now its 'lickety-split-quick' as a fresh install should be! Thanks for prompting me AGAIN, to re-read and take another understanding!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Wed Mar 21, 2018 8:50 am

So now I am fully updated, both XP and Office 2003, with all updates installed except two (KB4056615, KB4074852) and awesome speed! Just verified that Microsoft Updates only offers me those two updates listed above. Thanks to all the hard work of these two forums!

?Did I mention that my system is really really fast right now? My hard drive performance is not just 185mbs but low latency as well. (WD2500HHTZ @ 10,000rpm)

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Post by GH0st » Fri Mar 23, 2018 3:55 am

Yup ... it's fast!

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Post by =[FEAR]=JIGSAW » Fri Mar 23, 2018 7:50 am

lol

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:03 pm

ok, here it is ... the Post-uSP4 update hotfix batch installer.

This started with trevor12, modified by myself. I removed all the dotNet updates as abbodi86 does a perfect job updating all the dotNets, with his most current AIO installer. I took out a few known BAD updates (kb4056615, kb4074852) and the added March 2018 updates. Installing the latest IE8, which fixes things.

Proper deployment would be from a fresh install of uSP4, upon first boot to desktop, to place the "HOTFIX" folder on the C-drive, proper path would then be "C:\hotfix", from with-in that folder double click the "install" ... it will install all in the order its written. Reboot. With in the OS (Add or Remove Programs - Add/Remove Windows Components) chose to install dotNet 1-3-4, Harkaz does perfect install/optimization, reboot. Then install the abbodi86 AIO update pack, which will update *ALL* dotNET's thru January 2018. Upon first attempt of windows update you will be offered newer dotNET updates and the two dreaded BAD updates listed above, which should avoided!

This will offer the most perfect fresh install, (almost) fully updated, all offline, feels good.

Hotfix post-uSP4 batch installer--> newer version listed below

abbodi86 AIO dotNet update installer--> https://drop.me/on3G0q

I will try to update this file regularly, but I will need some help from 5eraph and user_hidden, so I know which updates to remove, while adding newer files, that replace older ones.

edit: to clarify things better (mockingbird)
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by mockingbird » Thu Mar 29, 2018 3:39 pm

GH0st wrote:
Wed Mar 28, 2018 10:03 pm
ok, here it is ... the Post-uSP4 update hotfix batch installer.
First to say GREAT job :D :D :D and thanks!
Just to clarify for some people:
With in the OS (add/remove) chose to install dotNet 1-2-3-4, Harkaz does perfect install/optimization, reboot.
You mean "add remove Windows Components", correct?

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Fri Mar 30, 2018 2:18 am

@mockingbird - Yes! and thanks!

Full path is --> [Start - Settings - Control Panel - Add or Remove Programs - Add/Remove Windows Components], the options to add (check) are:

Microsoft .NET Framework 1.1
Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5
Microsoft .NET Framework 4.0

I find it's best to install thru the operating system (reboot) and then update with the AIO file (reboot)!

Reason for adding here, rather the just doing the abbodi86 alone, is the AIO pack will install all of them, but the are not selected in the Add/Remove section. I think its better to add here first, the abbodi86 then to the updated files, which will bring you to January 2018. Then going to Windows Update, to get the few that are offered in march. I'm sure abbodi will update his pack at some point, but this is as close to fully updated as one can get at a this point and it can all be done OFFLINE. Prior to installing nic drivers, ect ect

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