[Abandoned] .net 1.1 & 2 integration addon.

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Post by xpmaniac4ever » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:42 pm

Nobody seems to care about this addon anymore, which is sad. :?
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Post by RyanVM » Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:46 pm

I realized today that I can make a switchless installer for .NET 1.1 and 2.0 that would be about 24.5MB in size (vs. the current 26.9MB for the two combined). I find it hard to believe that any CAB addon will ever come close to that size, which means that at least in my opinion, there's little value in making one. The only possible reason I could see for it would be if you were running an app during XP setup that needed .NET to be there already, but I find that hard to believe.
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Post by Joffer » Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:57 pm

You've got a link for that smaller (26MB) version of .dotnet 1.1 and 2.0? The one in the threadstarter is still over 50MB..

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Post by 5eraph » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:13 pm

RyanVM wrote:The only possible reason I could see for [making a CAB addon] would be if you were running an app during XP setup that needed .NET to be there already, but I find that hard to believe.
The only app I can think of would be ATI's Catalyst Control Center, but that installs at RunOnce if you're using the DriverPacks.
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Post by RyanVM » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:19 pm

Joffer wrote:You've got a link for that smaller (26MB) version of .dotnet 1.1 and 2.0? The one in the threadstarter is still over 50MB..
I'm referring to the downloads on the front page of my site
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RyanVM wrote:The only possible reason I could see for [making a CAB addon] would be if you were running an app during XP setup that needed .NET to be there already, but I find that hard to believe.
The only app I can think of would be ATI's Catalyst Control Center, but that installs at RunOnce if you're using the DriverPacks.
And even then, I'm guessing that as long as .NET is installed prior, it won't be an issue. There's still nothing necessitating a direct integration if that's the case.
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Post by Joffer » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:21 pm

Ahh, ok. Those I have :) Using cmdlines.txt to install those. Would it be better to use another approach?

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Post by RyanVM » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:22 pm

What I'm saying is that as far as I'm concerned, the switchless installers are still are the best approach from a disk space perspective
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Post by Denney » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:23 pm

I run my configuration program during setup which is based on .NET v2.0. It was based on v1.1 but once we found a way to install v2.0 from SVCPACK it was all good. I'd still like to be able to integrate .NET framework straight into the CD though.

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Post by RyanVM » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:25 pm

I probably will make a combined .NET installer this week for the two. 2.5MB is 2.5MB :P

And yes, I'll make it svcpack.inf compatible too.
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Post by Joffer » Sun Jun 25, 2006 6:45 pm

:D Great news. Think its best to have it all integrated in the source files :) Looking forword on it. And 2-5MB is 2.5MB :D

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Post by twig123 » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:36 am

RyanVM wrote:I probably will make a combined .NET installer this week for the two. 2.5MB is 2.5MB :P

And yes, I'll make it svcpack.inf compatible too.
Sweet, This would be the next best thing besides a direct intigration
and IMHO, the direct intigration addon wouldn't be worth the effort, but if someone had a lot of sparetime it too would be a welcome addon :)

@RyanVM: If you do end up making the single switchless installer, are you still going to keep the older seperate files or just update the site to include just the single file version?

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Post by RyanVM » Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:42 am

I'll make both options available
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Post by twig123 » Sun Jul 02, 2006 10:57 am

RyanVM wrote:I'll make both options available
Sweet! Keep up the great work! :)

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Post by RogueSpear » Sun Jul 02, 2006 12:46 pm

Man, this just ain't my day lol.. I was working on an installer that has .NET 2.0 included in it and I needed to edit a batch file. So I right click the file, and instead of Edit I accidentally hit open. Well it didn't run any of the installers, but it did make a registry change. Didnt think about that until it after I did a reboot which set something off.

Long story short is that I just got done recovering all of my data and now I'm doing a complete reinstall on my laptop (which I use like 90% of the time). Gotta love touch pads.

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Let me see if I have this right...

Post by ITinerant » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:39 pm

RyanVM wrote:What I'm saying is that as far as I'm concerned, the switchless installers are still are the best approach from a disk space perspective
The switchless installers require an unattended installation CD, right?
So far it's not possible to intigrate .NET 1&2 and still have the Repair option still functional at the beginning of the Setup?

I myself create 2 installation CD's. One intigrated with latest update pack and a few others for repairs, and one unattended using the same intigrated source plus winnt.sif. I use nLite on both mostly for the tweaks and making .iso's. But I'm just an end user that likes to tinker so I'm in no position to give advice.

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Jul 07, 2006 7:53 pm

svcpack.inf can be executed completely independent of any unattended CD...
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Post by SoKoOLz » Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:57 pm

The new Security update of .NET framework 2 has released yesterday.
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Can you add this new update to ur pack?

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Post by a1904107 » Wed Jul 12, 2006 12:15 am

.NET Compact Framework 2.0 Service Pack 1 Redistributable
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Post by Zacam » Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:21 am

SoKoOLz: Thanks for the information! As I noted that it is applicable to .Net Standard vs .Net Compact, it is an applicable update and I'm sure someone will manage to work on it.

a1904107: As I posted HERE the keyword there is "Compact". Read more carefully the differences involved in that keyword, as I believe this is now the _second_ time someone has posted something regarding "Compact" that does not apply. In the spirit of being helpful, that you're pointing it out is a thing to be grateful for and I do applaud the effort, but do check and discover that "Compact" is indeed an entirely different creature please.

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Re: Let me see if I have this right...

Post by bkmo » Wed Jul 19, 2006 8:59 pm

ITinerant wrote:
RyanVM wrote:What I'm saying is that as far as I'm concerned, the switchless installers are still are the best approach from a disk space perspective
The switchless installers require an unattended installation CD, right?
So far it's not possible to intigrate .NET 1&2 and still have the Repair option still functional at the beginning of the Setup?
You can press F10 on an unattended CD to get to the recovery console. The option is not visible, but hit F10 right at the beginning, when it wants F6 for drivers, and you should get the recovery console.

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Post by maniaq » Mon Aug 07, 2006 6:34 am

is this project cursed or what? first it was dgelwin then keytotime, and both had gone. sad :cry:

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Post by 5eraph » Mon Aug 07, 2006 8:16 pm

ITinerant wrote:So far it's not possible to intigrate .NET 1&2 and still have the Repair option still functional at the beginning of the Setup?
As far as I know (which, admittedly, isn't very much ;)) using WINNT.SIF is the only way to break the Repair function of an install disc. If that file exists in I386 then Repair will not be an available option. There are other ways to call a switchless installer without using [GUIRunOnce] in that file; such as Ryan's suggestion of using SVCPACK.INF.

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Post by lenyce06 » Wed Jan 23, 2008 6:16 pm

any more progress on this? Desperately need this for a project I am doing for school. thanks
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Post by 5eraph » Wed Jan 23, 2008 10:37 pm

No new progress with direct integration that I'm aware of. I've retagged the thread to make it clear.

There are other more recent alternatives with switchless installers you should consider. These are ordered by the original poster's activity in their release posts, from most recently posted/edited to least:

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