I know RyanVM doesn't maintain his WMP10 addon anymore but..
I know RyanVM doesn't maintain his WMP10 addon anymore but..
I hate WMP11 and still use RyanVM's WMP10 addon version 3.1a. I am wondering if there are any more hotfixes out that are not included in the pack that are specific to WMP10. I'm sure there are. Are there any more and is there some easy way to figure out which ones I need?
Edit: I just found this:
http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.p ... 0&hl=WMP10
Is that what I want? Can I just compare this against the list of hotfixes included in RyanVM's Update Pack and WMP10 Addon, add the missing hotfixes to nLite, and my WMP10 will be up to date? There isn't another WMP10 pack that's still being maintained is there?
Edit: I just found this:
http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.p ... 0&hl=WMP10
Is that what I want? Can I just compare this against the list of hotfixes included in RyanVM's Update Pack and WMP10 Addon, add the missing hotfixes to nLite, and my WMP10 will be up to date? There isn't another WMP10 pack that's still being maintained is there?
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Re: I know RyanVM doesn't maintain his WMP10 addon anymore but..
I would say in answer to your question "probably", but I'm sure you'll let us know after you try it.Phreddy wrote:Can I just compare this against the list of hotfixes included in RyanVM's Update Pack and WMP10 Addon, add the missing hotfixes to nLite, and my WMP10 will be up to date?
Actually, I don't know if I'd pay attention to any hotfixes in the Ryan's main update pack because I believe any WMP hotfixes that happened to be in there, if any, would have to be reinstalled after the WMP10 addon.
I would try just comparing what's in his WMP10 addon and that list of official hotfixes, and add the difference to nLite as you said.
I haven't noticed any but I haven't exactly been looking.Phreddy wrote:There isn't another WMP10 pack that's still being maintained is there?
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If you're talking about the addon pack, I bet Ryan's post in the Addons forum I just searched for "WMP10" has that information:marzsyndrome wrote:I'd be interested also in knowing which hotfixes RyanVM included in his pack and what later ones would be needed. Looking at the contents of the pack itself doesn't seem to make it clearer for me...
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... ight=wmp10

If you're talking about the Post-SP2 pack, just compare the KB numbers of http://www.ryanvm.net/msfn/updatepack-sp2.html to that URL Phreddy mentioned http://thehotfixshare.net/board/index.p ... 0&hl=WMP10, just as he was going to do.
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Ah, wait! Upon closer inspection of the 2.2.1 Update Pack, it appears it contains newer versions of the following files than what are provided in the WMP10 pack:
wmasf.dll
wmp.dll
wmvcore.dll
And also contains certain files which match in version info, filesize, date-stamp and checksum and are included in both packs:
dxmasf.dll
npdsplay.dll
strmdll.dll
This strikes me as bizzare that such files are included in the main Update Pack, seeing as it does not actually install WMP10 as a whole. Wouldn't these files clash with the stock WMP9 setup somehow? Or was the pack designed somewhat in a way to be used in conjunction with a slipstreamed WMP11 (as after all that's what we're all seemingly expected to do nowadays it seems)?
wmasf.dll
wmp.dll
wmvcore.dll
And also contains certain files which match in version info, filesize, date-stamp and checksum and are included in both packs:
dxmasf.dll
npdsplay.dll
strmdll.dll
This strikes me as bizzare that such files are included in the main Update Pack, seeing as it does not actually install WMP10 as a whole. Wouldn't these files clash with the stock WMP9 setup somehow? Or was the pack designed somewhat in a way to be used in conjunction with a slipstreamed WMP11 (as after all that's what we're all seemingly expected to do nowadays it seems)?
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I'm guessing that they're updates for WMP9 as well, which is what the update pack assumes people will be using, as it should (meaning it's purpose is definitely not to include anything for WMP10 or 11).
The updates concerning those files would have to be re-applied after the WMP10 or 11 addon, or as part of them.
The updates concerning those files would have to be re-applied after the WMP10 or 11 addon, or as part of them.
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RyanVM wrote:
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?p=69783#69783kontini wrote:When I installed the fixes from MU, the 10.x files were copied, so I followed suit.But are the hotfixes included for wmp9 or wmp10?
I've seen they are 10.x.x.x and not 9.x.x.x (kb923689-v2 and kb941569)
Don't ask for a different configuration of Onepiece's XP AIO Update Pack: use one of the existing vanilla XP UpdatePack with your preferred addons instead
Nobody seems to be complaining about any "clashes" with WMP9 and 2.2.1 so far...
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http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=2357
not sure if this is the right thread but actually i noticed that if you dont update to wmp 10 or 11 after installing windows, the browser will crash trying to open a windows media stream. everything was ok prior to 2.2.1RyanVM wrote:Nobody seems to be complaining about any "clashes" with WMP9 and 2.2.1 so far...
i used nLite on Original Win XP SP2 no other addons or anything but 2.2.1
browser works fine with any other stream of QT or RP except windows media
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I used the RVM Integrator v1.5.1 and integrated the RVM Post-SP2 Update v2.2.1 only into Windows XP Professional Corporate and installed it in VMWare Workstation v6.x with around 256 MB of RAM. I did not configure Windows at all, change any defaults, nor install anything except for VMWare Tools which installs VMWare's virtual hardware drivers for Windows. I did not use Windows/Microsoft Update either.
First of all, it's quaint watching the the old attended interface to Windows installations.
It's been a while.
Here are two screenshots, the first of me playing a streaming Windows Media file embedded in a webpage:

The second is of me playing a streaming Windows Media file that the webpage linked to:

If you wish to direct me to some particular streaming Windows Media files you've definitely had trouble with, I'll test those.
I may even attempt the same thing but with nLite (which I normally use), although for a controlled environment, I won't use any features of nLite except for the integration of the update pack.
First of all, it's quaint watching the the old attended interface to Windows installations.

Here are two screenshots, the first of me playing a streaming Windows Media file embedded in a webpage:

The second is of me playing a streaming Windows Media file that the webpage linked to:

If you wish to direct me to some particular streaming Windows Media files you've definitely had trouble with, I'll test those.
I may even attempt the same thing but with nLite (which I normally use), although for a controlled environment, I won't use any features of nLite except for the integration of the update pack.
well i tried playing any stream on WWE. i tried playing from the browser. i had the default WMP 9 as i didnt install anything but the update pack just as i did with the other versions of the update packs. they were flawless until this new one.If you wish to direct me to some particular streaming Windows Media files you've definitely had trouble with, I'll test those.
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I can confirm the problem. Are there any other websites you've had this problem or just this one?


Tomorrow I'll try it with Siginet's new pack http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6168


Tomorrow I'll try it with Siginet's new pack http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=6168
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[quote="roirraW "edor""]I can confirm the problem. Are there any other websites you've had this problem or just this one?[/quote]
It also does the same for Hollywood windows media streams
i will have to give siginet's a try if i can figure out what's different from the two as i have configured my setup perfectly with ryan's except the windows media browser crash
It also does the same for Hollywood windows media streams
i will have to give siginet's a try if i can figure out what's different from the two as i have configured my setup perfectly with ryan's except the windows media browser crash
As another stick-in-the-mud, I am also trying to stay with SP2 and WMP10. But these different files concern me. Even if there is no apparent loss of function with the old files, there could be security fixes lost. You wouldn't find out about those until someone pwned you. If I manually update the WMP addon with the corresponding files from the 2.2.2 SP2 update pack, will that ensure that there are no problems?marzsyndrome wrote:Ah, wait! Upon closer inspection of the 2.2.1 Update Pack, it appears it contains newer versions of the following files than what are provided in the WMP10 pack:
wmasf.dll
wmp.dll
wmvcore.dll
And also contains certain files which match in version info, filesize, date-stamp and checksum and are included in both packs:
dxmasf.dll
npdsplay.dll
strmdll.dll
This strikes me as bizzare that such files are included in the main Update Pack, seeing as it does not actually install WMP10 as a whole. Wouldn't these files clash with the stock WMP9 setup somehow? Or was the pack designed somewhat in a way to be used in conjunction with a slipstreamed WMP11 (as after all that's what we're all seemingly expected to do nowadays it seems)?
Yes, that should work fine.
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OK, I updated those three files (wmasf.dll, wmp.dll, wmvcore.dll) and made a new WMP10 addon. Then built a new install with XP Home and SP2 Update pack 2.2.3 but didn't get around to using it till today. It seems to install fine, but a dialog pops up saying WMP 'isn't installed properly' when I try to run it. It's not in the list of installed programs under add/remove so I can't uninstall. Yet it won't allow a simple re-install because it claims the already installed players is newer then what is trying to install. How to fix a paradox like this? (No other 'addons' used than the updated WMP10_3.1, btw) I don't want to have to upgrade to WMP11.
I see the main update pack has been incremented. Any suggestions on where to look for the source of this problem before I download it & try again?
I see the main update pack has been incremented. Any suggestions on where to look for the source of this problem before I download it & try again?

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the updates required to update ryans wmp10 pack are:
(make sure you get the correct versions for your OS and wmp)
WindowsXP-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE
WindowsMedia10-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-KB954600-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB952069-x86-ENU.exe
the above updates are listed from oldest to newest.
you will have to update the main files included with each update as well the KBxxxxxxx.CAT files to the SVCPACK folder.
entries.ini change is to add the new KBxxxxxx.CAT files to [svcpack_catalogs]
no addreg entries are required.
repack ryan's wmp10 addon
integrate....test in a VM....check MU/WU

(make sure you get the correct versions for your OS and wmp)
WindowsXP-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE
WindowsMedia10-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-KB954600-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB952069-x86-ENU.exe
the above updates are listed from oldest to newest.
you will have to update the main files included with each update as well the KBxxxxxxx.CAT files to the SVCPACK folder.
entries.ini change is to add the new KBxxxxxx.CAT files to [svcpack_catalogs]
no addreg entries are required.
repack ryan's wmp10 addon
integrate....test in a VM....check MU/WU

Ack... that's what I was afraid of. But I thought if Ryan himself said that just replacing the files was enough then that would work. But I gotta pry into those update executables (are they sfx zip or something else?) and find other things to update? Why hasn't someone with some experience already done this? Isn't there enough demand for it?user_hidden wrote:the updates required to update ryans wmp10 pack are:
(make sure you get the correct versions for your OS and wmp)
WindowsXP-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE
WindowsMedia10-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-KB954600-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB952069-x86-ENU.exe
the above updates are listed from oldest to newest.
you will have to update the main files included with each update as well the KBxxxxxxx.CAT files to the SVCPACK folder.
entries.ini change is to add the new KBxxxxxx.CAT files to [svcpack_catalogs]
no addreg entries are required.
repack ryan's wmp10 addon
integrate....test in a VM....check MU/WU
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Ok, I have these four files, but the last one is for SP3. Since I am using the post-SP2 update pack, I probably shouldn't use that one? (And how does the post SP3 update work anyway? You can't buy an SP3 disk anywhere. It's only available as a patch from MS. Is there another utility that integrates SP3 into your SP2 disk before you use the RyanVM updater?)user_hidden wrote:the updates required to update ryans wmp10 pack are:
(make sure you get the correct versions for your OS and wmp)
WindowsXP-KB941569-x86-ENU.EXE
WindowsMedia10-KB936782-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-KB954600-x86-ENU.exe
WindowsXP-WindowsMedia-KB952069-x86-ENU.exe
the above updates are listed from oldest to newest.
you will have to update the main files included with each update as well the KBxxxxxxx.CAT files to the SVCPACK folder.
entries.ini change is to add the new KBxxxxxx.CAT files to [svcpack_catalogs]
no addreg entries are required.
repack ryan's wmp10 addon
integrate....test in a VM....check MU/WU
More importantly, how do you get the files out of the executables? They aren't SFX zip files. So what are they?
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The integrator can integrate SP3, as can nlite: www.nliteos.com. I use nlite for this task personally.Zosimos wrote: Ok, I have these four files, but the last one is for SP3. Since I am using the post-SP2 update pack, I probably shouldn't use that one? (And how does the post SP3 update work anyway? You can't buy an SP3 disk anywhere. It's only available as a patch from MS. Is there another utility that integrates SP3 into your SP2 disk before you use the RyanVM updater?)
More importantly, how do you get the files out of the executables? They aren't SFX zip files. So what are they?
As for the MS exe's, I believe they are in CAB format like most/all of MS's other stuff. Winrar can open them, 7-zip can too I believe. Plain ZIP format is old school, 7z/rar are SO much better.

SP1 for XP x86 was dropped in 2006, 26 months after the release of SP2.
XP x86 RTM and SP1 included WMP8. SP2 and later for XP x86 include WMP9. XP MCE and XP x64 are the only versions of XP to include WMP10. No version of XP includes WMP11.
So, with XP XP3 you will have WMP9.
XP x86 RTM and SP1 included WMP8. SP2 and later for XP x86 include WMP9. XP MCE and XP x64 are the only versions of XP to include WMP10. No version of XP includes WMP11.
So, with XP XP3 you will have WMP9.
I suppose there's not a lot of difference between WMP 9 and WMP 10, but I'd still like to try to use the addon and have it already there rather than need to install it if I need it at some point. Does it matter if I put something ahead of the SP3 update and the RyanVM Post-SP3 update in the integration order? Like the WMP10_31a addon?
Or should I run the integrator with only the WMP addon, and then run it again with SP3 and the update?
Also, I used the RyanVM .NET 2.0 switchless installer recently because I want to use a program that needs 2.0 or later, and then got a windows update notice for a cumulative service pack that was 248 MB! I refused that, and then it found a 23 MB update for .NET 2.0 only. I accepted that but it's going to take a while to download on dialup.
I looked for a newer installer but I don't see one. Shouldn't this installer be updated so you don't have to download the update(s) after using it?

Also, I used the RyanVM .NET 2.0 switchless installer recently because I want to use a program that needs 2.0 or later, and then got a windows update notice for a cumulative service pack that was 248 MB! I refused that, and then it found a 23 MB update for .NET 2.0 only. I accepted that but it's going to take a while to download on dialup.

It does not matter which update pack you use with the WMP10 addon. The Integrator (or nlite for that matter) are smart enough to realize if there are newer files on the update pack than the addon.
As for the .net 2.0 switchless installer, you need to locate an installer that includes the latest updates. Ryan has not had time to update that installer yet. There are other people that have created an updated .net installer for you. You just need to look under the "switchless installer releases" forum to locate them.
As for the .net 2.0 switchless installer, you need to locate an installer that includes the latest updates. Ryan has not had time to update that installer yet. There are other people that have created an updated .net installer for you. You just need to look under the "switchless installer releases" forum to locate them.
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