[Addon] Microsoft Runtime Libraries Collection(x86) 2.0.7
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Added new link for my vc x86/x64 AIO installer to post
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how does the AIO behave when we deal with XP 32 bits ?
will it pass to the slipstreamed product the vc_red 64 bits components ?
or it has a smart detection something ?
and if passed ... will the resulting xp installation disc try to install the 64 bits version of vcred ? cause it might generate errors during installation of windows or later afterwards when trying to launch any applications either belonging to xp pack or third party one
the 64 bit OS DOES need vcred 32 bits...so I suppose that's the main reason this AIO exists...but 32 bits OS should by all means stay away from 64 bit files..to avoid brutal crushes
an exclusive 32 bits addon may be provided along with this AIO...as I am sure the first will be hugely preferred to download
REEDIT
also visual J and Fsharp runtime may be made separately for a very simple and practical reason
who wishes them only has to click ONCE more for each... inside the Ryanvm integrator...ONLY during this procedure of creating the slipstreamed OS with the respective addon...cause the OS installation (during installation) does not discriminate between the method somebody choosed to integrate the addons...it simply runs them in a sequence YET theere may be users not willing the visual J and Fsharp inside their OS at all
...so i humble say don't see the point of forcing potatoes and tomatoes into the same bag...if I only need to eat a salade ...and if I want more I buy a different bag with potatoes (with one click only inside the integrator)
even the switches use policy ... to prohibit the installation of some elements of the same addon does not satisfy entirelly...such as the separate addon does... because of not solving the weight problem of the slipstreamed final OS...which in our case still contains the Fsharp and visual J although not letting them to pass to the hard drive at the installation time...
in spite of what people say... the size may count
when we deal with an xp disc...as we may want some other addons to fit inside those 700 megs too
so, the alternative is safer and cleaner...which consists of making a separate addon of each piece of software which for any consideration may be an addon in itself ...but of course a separate addon implies the exhausting
work of using the "Browse to the addon pack" button once more inside the Ryan VM Integrator.
thank you for having the patience to read me till the end
will it pass to the slipstreamed product the vc_red 64 bits components ?
or it has a smart detection something ?
and if passed ... will the resulting xp installation disc try to install the 64 bits version of vcred ? cause it might generate errors during installation of windows or later afterwards when trying to launch any applications either belonging to xp pack or third party one
the 64 bit OS DOES need vcred 32 bits...so I suppose that's the main reason this AIO exists...but 32 bits OS should by all means stay away from 64 bit files..to avoid brutal crushes
an exclusive 32 bits addon may be provided along with this AIO...as I am sure the first will be hugely preferred to download

REEDIT
also visual J and Fsharp runtime may be made separately for a very simple and practical reason
who wishes them only has to click ONCE more for each... inside the Ryanvm integrator...ONLY during this procedure of creating the slipstreamed OS with the respective addon...cause the OS installation (during installation) does not discriminate between the method somebody choosed to integrate the addons...it simply runs them in a sequence YET theere may be users not willing the visual J and Fsharp inside their OS at all

even the switches use policy ... to prohibit the installation of some elements of the same addon does not satisfy entirelly...such as the separate addon does... because of not solving the weight problem of the slipstreamed final OS...which in our case still contains the Fsharp and visual J although not letting them to pass to the hard drive at the installation time...
in spite of what people say... the size may count

so, the alternative is safer and cleaner...which consists of making a separate addon of each piece of software which for any consideration may be an addon in itself ...but of course a separate addon implies the exhausting

thank you for having the patience to read me till the end

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the AIO is of great use to me, extracting it and making separate addons of all 3 x86 vc_red...with the help of some existing batch files and also retrieving the content of the "extra" microsoft old runtimes... by use of innounp directly or universal extractor updated with the latest innounp.exe... reconstructing its .iss file for future use, yesterday I felt like talking 
there are many wonderfull resourcers on this site and yours much appreciated here...
thanks !

there are many wonderfull resourcers on this site and yours much appreciated here...
thanks !
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You don't have to extract the extra.exe installer, I have the ISS sources in the tools/resources links you can use instead (you will find a bonus ISS with only vc runtimes)
thanks, I grabbed it and ran some quick compression tests...
and
commenting with ";" before
;InternalCompressLevel=ultra and thus disabling the entry made no difference in size at all
also changing the "lzma2/ultra" to the simple "lzma" the resulting compilation grew in size by 0,2 Kbytes...
so I decided to use lzma cause there is a big difference between lzma and lzma2/ultra - memory consumption degree, let aside the decompression gain in speed when using simple lzma...
normally nowadays computers have lots of memory and CPU potency yet for the sake of broader compatibility with the older PCs and even to avoid error messages in certain scenario...for example forcing the lzma2/ultra decompression triggers an explosion in memory need of at least 32 megs according to inno help ... and OS installation being a senzitive procedure...I don't know what impact has in a customized environment...how much memory it is allocated to that particular process from the total effective physical memory, if it is restrained by the system inside some memory limits and the sudden thirst of it might or not slow the installation or generate errors and unpredicted results, or if some memory address are ocuppied by some persisting resident and eventually erroneous addons, previously launched... so the over all gain in size is much to small to count ...when compared to the "risks"... the "risks and benefits policy" points to lzma in this case for me
and
commenting with ";" before
;InternalCompressLevel=ultra and thus disabling the entry made no difference in size at all
also changing the "lzma2/ultra" to the simple "lzma" the resulting compilation grew in size by 0,2 Kbytes...
so I decided to use lzma cause there is a big difference between lzma and lzma2/ultra - memory consumption degree, let aside the decompression gain in speed when using simple lzma...
normally nowadays computers have lots of memory and CPU potency yet for the sake of broader compatibility with the older PCs and even to avoid error messages in certain scenario...for example forcing the lzma2/ultra decompression triggers an explosion in memory need of at least 32 megs according to inno help ... and OS installation being a senzitive procedure...I don't know what impact has in a customized environment...how much memory it is allocated to that particular process from the total effective physical memory, if it is restrained by the system inside some memory limits and the sudden thirst of it might or not slow the installation or generate errors and unpredicted results, or if some memory address are ocuppied by some persisting resident and eventually erroneous addons, previously launched... so the over all gain in size is much to small to count ...when compared to the "risks"... the "risks and benefits policy" points to lzma in this case for me
As far as I know, yes. That is Rick's usual style, to be able to use either RVMi or nLite, unless he specifically tells you otherwise. And YumeYao's original work was intended for XP, and Rick's is to fill in for YumeYao's until he has more time, so I would assume Rick's is as well.
Cheers and Regards
Cheers and Regards
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Try adding /qn switch to the entries.ini
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I assume your using:mba2431 wrote:how hide progress bar during installation in t-13?
Ricks-YumeYao_MicrosoftVC78910RuntimeLibraries_MixedAddon_2_1_3.7z
To hide the 7zSFX extraction progress bar add the -gm2 switch to the entries_msvcrtl.ini
To make the msi install quiet instead of passive change /qb to /qn in the entries_msvcrtl.ini.
So something like this to hide everything:
Code: Select all
[AddProgram]
vcredist.exe /qn -gm2
"You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make it drink."
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Removed
Added newer KB2723430 (Visual C++ 2010)
Added KB2607389 Supersedes KB2618543 (Visual C++ 2008)
Added newer KB2723430 (Visual C++ 2010)
Added KB2607389 Supersedes KB2618543 (Visual C++ 2008)
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extracted the Ricks-YumeYao_MicrosoftVC78910RuntimeLibraries_MixedAddon_2_1_5.7z
to run the isolated vc 8 runtimes..
there are 3 errors reporting missing files or paths to them...
changed the extracted vc8 location close to C:\ and errors still there...
http://bayimg.com/JABBiAaen
I may delete the entries from the msi file, references from the directory table using a msi editor I just want to know if there is any bad impact ?
thanks!
reedit:
the same happening with vc9
vc10 runs smooth instead
to run the isolated vc 8 runtimes..
there are 3 errors reporting missing files or paths to them...
changed the extracted vc8 location close to C:\ and errors still there...
http://bayimg.com/JABBiAaen
I may delete the entries from the msi file, references from the directory table using a msi editor I just want to know if there is any bad impact ?
thanks!
reedit:
the same happening with vc9
vc10 runs smooth instead
please look at jaynbe vcredists...
it seems he has some
newer version of Visual c++ 2010..
the same version of Visual c++ 2008
older version of Visual c++ 2005
http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/7665 ... s-2012-08/
Visual c++ 2005 SP1 v8.0.50727.6229
Visual c++ 2008 SP1 v9.0.30729.6313
Visual c++ 2010 SP1 v10.0.40219.414
it seems he has some
newer version of Visual c++ 2010..
the same version of Visual c++ 2008
older version of Visual c++ 2005
http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/7665 ... s-2012-08/
Visual c++ 2005 SP1 v8.0.50727.6229
Visual c++ 2008 SP1 v9.0.30729.6313
Visual c++ 2010 SP1 v10.0.40219.414
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Yes indeed it has the 414 build...the stamps on each file containing it it bears the 414 at file version... my mistake again !
I was simply comparing the detail revealed at "Add remove Progs" after installing vc_red 2010 from you and from jaynbe...this one it is missing showing the 414 tail only, maybe after a msi editing or something,
thanks for the feedback, I should have been more scrupulous searching for the file version instead of a mere editable mark from add remove

I was simply comparing the detail revealed at "Add remove Progs" after installing vc_red 2010 from you and from jaynbe...this one it is missing showing the 414 tail only, maybe after a msi editing or something,
thanks for the feedback, I should have been more scrupulous searching for the file version instead of a mere editable mark from add remove

What makes you suggesting this is "older version of Visual c++ 2005"vodacuza wrote:please look at jaynbe vcredists...
it seems he has some
newer version of Visual c++ 2010..
the same version of Visual c++ 2008
older version of Visual c++ 2005
http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/7665 ... s-2012-08/
Visual c++ 2005 SP1 v8.0.50727.6229
Visual c++ 2008 SP1 v9.0.30729.6313
Visual c++ 2010 SP1 v10.0.40219.414
The latest is still "v8.0.50727.6229" and Rick's has exactly the same.
Also as you discovered the VC10 isn't newer; only also latest.
it applies the same thing which I explained above
under "Add remove Programs" go to "Microsoft visual C++ 2005 Redistributable" highlight it, click on "Click here for support information" and it is clearly written "8.0.61187"
as I saw this I thought that this 6 from 61187 following 8.0 it is higher than 5 following yours 8.0 version...from that 50727 posted by you... as I said I was not searching deep through the contents, the file version itself...but I took for granted the version shown by the installer under the explicit "version" statement from "Click here for support information" in the windows Add remove ...
As far as I know there is no reason of having two different ways of marking the version of a product... the Ms negligence combined with my credulity into easily believing what it's advertised for a version of a release
I beg for forgiveness
under "Add remove Programs" go to "Microsoft visual C++ 2005 Redistributable" highlight it, click on "Click here for support information" and it is clearly written "8.0.61187"
as I saw this I thought that this 6 from 61187 following 8.0 it is higher than 5 following yours 8.0 version...from that 50727 posted by you... as I said I was not searching deep through the contents, the file version itself...but I took for granted the version shown by the installer under the explicit "version" statement from "Click here for support information" in the windows Add remove ...

As far as I know there is no reason of having two different ways of marking the version of a product... the Ms negligence combined with my credulity into easily believing what it's advertised for a version of a release
I beg for forgiveness

The link to the Legacy pack still works. Or you could try ricktendo64's updated packs.
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behind the antipiracy policy it rather stays the need of the agencies and governments to take control of the information ... torrents, file sharing and all the storage sites are hidden pipes they need to limit cause they are the ideal places for what they fight against.
"cloud computing" it scares secret services so they are doing what they can, killing storage sites one by one under the false accusations of piracy promoting...see megaupload and FBI...and others too
"cloud computing" it scares secret services so they are doing what they can, killing storage sites one by one under the false accusations of piracy promoting...see megaupload and FBI...and others too
I'm using OnePiece's Onepiece's EN-US Windows XP Post-SP3 All-in-One Update Pack (x86). It includes the .net files.
Just wondering if there is an addon pack, compatible with the OnePiece, that will integrate the various Visual X runtimes?
Can ricktendo's AIO exe (x86/x64 24 mb at Wincert.net link) be integrated? or is it only run from command line.
Just wondering if there is an addon pack, compatible with the OnePiece, that will integrate the various Visual X runtimes?
Can ricktendo's AIO exe (x86/x64 24 mb at Wincert.net link) be integrated? or is it only run from command line.
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Found a link for KB2565063, but Microsoft's publish date is 2011/08/09.
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wow! that was a freaking NIGHTMARE !!!...
yeah, it did EVENTUALLY download...
that CRAPPY adf.ly site SUCKS (at least "right now", maybe they're OK 'most of the time')...
i refreshed the page HUNDREDS (*not* an exaggeration!) of times...
some times it would show no banner at the top (the "earn $5 for every 10,000 clicks" or whatever)...
other times it would FALSELY say i'm not allowing cookies...
there were five or six different "error" messages it kept popping up, sometimes with the banner, sometimes without...
once, "skip ad" never showed up, it STUCK at "1 second"...
another time, the mediafire link started to work but then a FAKE anti-virus POS popped up...
the ONLY way i ended up getting it to EVENTUALLY download was to go through my Proxomitron log and manually replace a %2f and %3f to a ? and a : in the mediafire link...
no offense, i'm sure it's okay "most of the time", but for 'right now', i'm sending a 'shout out' - ADF.LY *SUCKS* !!!... (okay, i feel better now...)
yeah, it did EVENTUALLY download...
that CRAPPY adf.ly site SUCKS (at least "right now", maybe they're OK 'most of the time')...
i refreshed the page HUNDREDS (*not* an exaggeration!) of times...
some times it would show no banner at the top (the "earn $5 for every 10,000 clicks" or whatever)...
other times it would FALSELY say i'm not allowing cookies...
there were five or six different "error" messages it kept popping up, sometimes with the banner, sometimes without...
once, "skip ad" never showed up, it STUCK at "1 second"...
another time, the mediafire link started to work but then a FAKE anti-virus POS popped up...
the ONLY way i ended up getting it to EVENTUALLY download was to go through my Proxomitron log and manually replace a %2f and %3f to a ? and a : in the mediafire link...
no offense, i'm sure it's okay "most of the time", but for 'right now', i'm sending a 'shout out' - ADF.LY *SUCKS* !!!... (okay, i feel better now...)