XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack for Windows XP Post-SP3 20180109

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Post by 5eraph » Tue Sep 03, 2013 6:02 pm

Updated Siginet's RVMi site to list the latest versions of the Integrator, including 1.6.1 beta 2.1.

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Using an RVM Integrator disk for a Windows XP Repair Install

Post by rvm999 » Tue Sep 03, 2013 11:32 pm

@ user_hidden

i just posted the following comment in a thread about nonno fabio's "Onepiece EN-US Windows XP Post-SP3 All-in-One Update Pack" (http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 843#133843).

I'm not attempting to "double-post," but to get information directly from the different authors of the two primary Update Packs now available. It seems plausible that your Packs have different capabilities, and might work differently when used for a Repair Install.

I'll quote the text of the other post in full here so you don't need to look at the link provided. Please be assured that the appreciation expressed in the closing sentence applies to you and your work as well.


On 5/20/13, bphlpt wrote (with regard to [nonno fabio's] update pack): "The resulting build is also intended to only be used to do a "clean" install, not any kind of repair or update install, so again no previous outdated and superseded hotfixes are involved in any way." (http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... start=2700).

I'm almost certain that I've seen other opinions posted on this Discussion Board indicating that using your build for a repair install presented no problems. Since I'm here because I am about to do a repair install, I thought it best to go to the source for a definitive answer.

If it turns out that builds using your update pack present problems, could you give a brief explanation? As I understand it, the point of using RVM and update packs is to present Windows with an installation source that is almost exactly what it would encounter with Microsoft's retail disk, which replaces "outdated and superseded hotfixes" during a repair install.

Thanks for any light you can shed on this matter, and for your work in creating these Packs.

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Sep 04, 2013 8:11 am

it would be assumed that to repair an install you would require the original setup CD/DVD used in the first place. I have never tried using an updated disk to repair an install so I don't know if it would conflict or not.

usually an update pack is made to create a NEW install CD/DVD for a system.

depending on how you setup the integration and if you use certain code in the winnt.sif file
you may or may not have a REPAIR option offered.

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Post by ChiefZeke » Wed Sep 04, 2013 3:56 pm

@rvm999

I'm adding my 2 cents to this.

I started with an XP Pro w/SP2 CD as the source, slipstremaed it with SP3 and created a 'new' XP w/SP3 source. I use this as my source for creating a 'new' XP Pro w/SP3 ISO using the RyanVM Integrator and the latest Update Pack (your choice - there are two posted here), as many Addons as I want - which could include WMP11, DirectX, IE8, Runtimes (including VisualC++), DotNetFx (from 1.1 to 4.0), etc. Then, if deemed necessary, I go to the DriverPacks forum: http://forum.driverpacks.net/ and download as appropriate.

Once all this is done I then create a new ISO file, burn a CD/DVD and use it to do a new install or a repair install. I will do this every month or two so that I have the latest updates available on a new CD/DVD when/if the occasion arises.

Can't be any easier. :D

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RE: Using an RVM Integrator disk for a Windows XP Repair

Post by rvm999 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:54 pm

user_hidden wrote:I have never tried using an updated disk to repair an install so I don't know if it would conflict or not.
nonno fabio was very positive about the capability of his build for this build, so I'll start there.

Thanks for your thoughts.

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RE: Using an RVM Integrator disk for a Windows XP Repair Install

Post by rvm999 » Wed Sep 04, 2013 5:59 pm

ChiefZeke wrote:
I started with an XP Pro w/SP2 CD as the source, slipstreamed it with SP3 and created a 'new' XP w/SP3 source. I use this as my source for creating a 'new' XP Pro w/SP3 ISO using the RyanVM Integrator and the latest Update Pack . . . .Once all this is done I then create a new ISO file, burn a CD/DVD and use it to do a new install or a repair install.
Thanks for letting me know this. That's very encouraging. You are doing almost exactly what I want to do, so I'll hope I share your success.

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Re: RE: Using an RVM Integrator disk for a Windows XP Repair Install

Post by ChiefZeke » Wed Sep 04, 2013 11:39 pm

rvm999 wrote: Thanks for letting me know this. That's very encouraging. You are doing almost exactly what I want to do, so I'll hope I share your success.
It's been so routine for me I almost forgot one item - if you opt to use DriverPacks you must make one edit before you create the ISO or a Repair Install won't work.

When DriverPacks finishes go to the created \System32 folder and edit as follows: WINNT.SIF - delete the following three lines after Driver Packs is run but before an ISO file is created.

[Unattended]
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy=Ignore

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Re: RE: Using an RVM Integrator disk for a Windows XP Repair Install

Post by mr_smartepants » Thu Sep 05, 2013 1:16 am

ChiefZeke wrote: - if you opt to use DriverPacks you must make one edit before you create the ISO or a Repair Install won't work.

When DriverPacks finishes go to the created \System32 folder and edit as follows: WINNT.SIF - delete the following three lines after Driver Packs is run but before an ISO file is created.

[Unattended]
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
Just be aware that if you do delete those lines, then you will get popup warnings during install for every driver being used that is not digitally signed and your install will no longer be "unattended".
We do our best to only use digitally signed drivers though.
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RE: Using RVM Integrator disks including DriverPacks for XP Repair Install

Post by rvm999 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 1:58 pm

mr_smartepants wrote:
ChiefZeke wrote: - if you opt to use DriverPacks you must make one edit before you create the ISO or a Repair Install won't work.

When DriverPacks finishes go to the created \System32 folder and edit as follows: WINNT.SIF - delete the following three lines after Driver Packs is run but before an ISO file is created.

[Unattended]
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
Just be aware that if you do delete those lines, then you will get popup warnings during install for every driver being used that is not digitally signed and your install will no longer be "unattended".

We do our best to only use digitally signed drivers though.
Thanks for the warning about ChiefZeke's warning. It's almost "damned if you do, and damned if you don't"! Based on the signature in your post, I feel fortunate that such an authority on the subject was reading this board.
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RE: Using RVM Integrator disks including DriverPacks for XP Repair Install

Post by rvm999 » Fri Sep 06, 2013 2:05 pm

ChiefZeke wrote:
if you opt to use DriverPacks you must make one edit before you create the ISO or a Repair Install won't work.

When DriverPacks finishes go to the created \System32 folder and edit as follows: WINNT.SIF - delete the following three lines after Driver Packs is run but before an ISO file is created.

[Unattended]
DriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
NonDriverSigningPolicy=Ignore
Yet another "Gotcha"! That must have taken many "fails" to discover. Thanks for the warning.

By the way, you'll be interested in the post from mr_smartepants (Wed Sep 04, 2013 9:16 pm), warning about your warning.

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Post by ChiefZeke » Fri Sep 06, 2013 5:07 pm

@rvm999

I was well aware of the issue mentioned by mr-smartepants - but I do not do "unattended" installs so it was not 'routine' as far as I am concerned.

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Sep 11, 2013 9:58 am

20130910

updated Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool v5.4
updated Adobe Flash Player 11.8.800.168 ActiveX Control
updated KB2803821 to v2
added KB2864063
added KB2870699 replaced KB2862772
added KB2876217 replaced KB2624667
added KB2876315 replaced KB2850851

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Sep 11, 2013 1:17 pm

Thanks. :)

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Post by adric » Wed Sep 11, 2013 2:09 pm

Thanks from me too.

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Post by adric » Wed Sep 11, 2013 5:28 pm

fyi,
the hashes listed are from last month's updatepack (Aug).

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Post by Vista » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:11 pm

SHA1: EAD53A2354A35A89A0AB8ED368ECE632CBC975C9

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Sep 11, 2013 6:56 pm

adric wrote:fyi,
the hashes listed are from last month's updatepack (Aug).

Al
uploaded the wrong template on the OP.....fixed

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Oct 10, 2013 5:22 pm

sorry guys/gals for the delay.
I have been sick as a dog.

i'll upload my beta pack in a few hours ....

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Post by keloo05 » Fri Oct 11, 2013 5:04 am

Take your time. I wish you a speedy recovery !

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Post by user_hidden » Fri Oct 11, 2013 6:43 am

here is a beta of the updatepack. I've had no time to debug it.
seems for some reason KB2862330 pops up in MU.
i'll check into that later.
maybe 5eraph's needle nose eyes will see the problem.

Link: XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack_20131008_beta.7z
CRC-32: fdf51fe4
MD4: eeba08a922c7196513926f01158aafa2
MD5: 58a4f749a613ee238817d614e9a84fa8
SHA-1: bed6b1869710df09dc99fa7bf42ac951d0099820
OS: Windows XP SP3 (x86)
Date: 20131008
Size: 56.3 MB
20131008 updated Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool v5.5
updated Adobe Flash Player 11.9.900.117 ActiveX Control
added KB2847311 replaced KB2753842
added KB2862330
added KB2862335
added KB2868038
added KB2879017 replaced KB2870699
added KB2883150 replaced KB2876315
added KB2884256

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Post by SHO_GuN » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:30 am

I did no testing but...

The file "usbehci.sys" in your pack is version "5.1.2600.6368" - I think this should be "5.1.2600.5778".

I also noticed that "usbscan.sys" from KB2862335 isn't added to "entries.ini". I thought that if a file in a KB wasn't included in the original source that it had to be added. No idea if that "thought" is fact or not.

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Post by user_hidden » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:47 am

SHO_GuN wrote:I did no testing but...

The file "usbehci.sys" in your pack is version "5.1.2600.6368" - I think this should be "5.1.2600.5778".

I also noticed that "usbscan.sys" from KB2862335 isn't added to "entries.ini". I thought that if a file in a KB wasn't included in the original source that it had to be added. No idea if that "thought" is fact or not.

usbehci.sys from KB2862330 is older than file from KB2828030.

usbscan.sys is part of SP3.cab

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Post by 5eraph » Fri Oct 11, 2013 9:58 am

No problem with the beta here in VirtualBox 4.2.18, user_hidden. What does "QFECheck /v" give you?

Higher version numbers should be kept, SHO_GuN. USBScan.sys is located in SP3.cab and is already listed in DOSNet.inf and TXTSetup.sif on an unmodified source; there is no need to add it anywhere in Entries.ini.

EDIT: user_hidden beat me to it. :)

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Post by user_hidden » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:39 am

5eraph wrote:No problem with the beta here in VirtualBox 4.2.18, user_hidden. What does "QFECheck /v" give you?

Higher version numbers should be kept, SHO_GuN. USBScan.sys is located in SP3.cab and is already listed in DOSNet.inf and TXTSetup.sif on an unmodified source; there is no need to add it anywhere in Entries.ini.

EDIT: user_hidden beat me to it. :)
qfecheck was fine....it was MU that was nagging.
I've seen MU nag before in VM but not real pc.
i'll wait to see what real world install will say.

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Post by SHO_GuN » Fri Oct 11, 2013 10:50 am

Doh! I'll wait until second cup of coffee to reply in the future lol

I don't have KB2828030 in my pack, but still should of realized that you're different version number was higher than mine, not lower.

Thanks for the SP3.cab tip, never thought to look in there.

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Post by Outbreaker » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:01 am

The KB2862330 pops up in MU on my VirtualBox and on my test Laptop.

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Post by user_hidden » Mon Oct 14, 2013 11:25 am

Outbreaker wrote:The KB2862330 pops up in MU on my VirtualBox and on my test Laptop.
haven't had time to look into why but the correct files are present, the correct reg entries are present, passes qfecheck !

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Post by ricktendo64 » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:13 pm

Outbreaker wrote:The KB2862330 pops up in MU on my VirtualBox and on my test Laptop.
Copy usbehci.sys to the system32\driver folder (this should not be a problem on a real machine)

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Post by 5eraph » Mon Oct 14, 2013 12:59 pm

Seems like the TxtSetup fix for bthport.sys (KB951376) should apply here... ("4,1,3" to "4,0,0")

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Post by Outbreaker » Mon Oct 14, 2013 1:49 pm

I cannot see any errors if i do "qfecheck /v".
I tried the UpdatePack also in VMware Player an there KB2862330 doesn't pops up in MU, and once i installed KB2862330 in VirtualBox then it also doesn't pops up in MU anymore. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

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Post by user_hidden » Mon Oct 14, 2013 7:33 pm

@ Ricktendo64 & 5eraph

thanks guys :)

first post updated

20131008
updated Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool v5.5
updated Adobe Flash Player 11.9.900.117 ActiveX Control
added KB2847311 replaced KB2753842
added KB2862330
added KB2862335
added KB2868038
added KB2879017 replaced KB2870699
added KB2883150 replaced KB2876315
added KB2884256

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Post by Outbreaker » Tue Oct 15, 2013 7:36 am

Thanks no KB2862330 problems anymore. :)

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Post by soulstace » Sat Oct 19, 2013 3:14 pm

Thanks I just installed 20131008 in VMWare with no problems, and then synchronized new system files (and catroot) with my host XP install. Windows XP is still the best!

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Post by =[FEAR]=JIGSAW » Wed Oct 23, 2013 3:44 am

.... only untill you discover Win7_64bit :D

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Post by mooms » Wed Oct 23, 2013 6:55 am

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Post by Botus » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:08 am

=[FEAR]=JIGSAW wrote:.... only untill you discover Win7_64bit :D
after 5 third party apps and tuning off lots of bling... with the exception of search, which I find totally useless and the fact explorer favourites is not where it should be in the toolbar I agree entirely :lol:
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Post by Botus » Fri Oct 25, 2013 9:09 am

delete.

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Post by vix » Fri Oct 25, 2013 1:05 pm

I have used all major Windows versions from 3.0 to 8.1

XP is the only one that works perfectly in so many different hardware configurations and virtual machines as well.

I can't like Windows Vista, 7 or 8. They are too big.

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Post by ELiTE » Fri Oct 25, 2013 2:06 pm

vix wrote: XP is the only one that works perfectly in so many different hardware configurations and virtual machines as well.
Yea. XP's biggest issue is it's a pain trying to find drivers that are compatible with 2013 hardware, doesn't natively support Sata 3, can't recognize/format SSD's, still runs off old IE versions and the list goes on and on.

XP needs to be given a proper burial and a tip of the hat for many years of solid service.

Glad it still works out for you.................. 8)
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Post by vix » Sat Oct 26, 2013 7:15 am

ELiTE wrote:Yea. XP's biggest issue is it's a pain trying to find drivers that are compatible with 2013 hardware, doesn't natively support Sata 3, can't recognize/format SSD's
Considering the you are writing in a forum regarding slipstreaming it takes some real guts to type so many wrong statements in one sentence and hope nobody notices.

FYI, my newest AMD APU systems are all SATA3, use SSDs, they are June 2013 hardware and finding drivers was just a matter of slipstreaming Driverpacks.net, userhidden's QFE update and Catalyst.
ELiTE wrote:still runs off old IE versions
Even better: it can be used without IE at all.

EDITED: userhidden's update name :)
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Post by ELiTE » Sat Oct 26, 2013 8:06 am

vix wrote: Considering the you are writing in a forum regarding slipstreaming it takes some real guts to type so many wrong statements in one sentence and hope nobody notices.
Sadly, PUNKS like YOU need to learn to show RESPECT in this forum. Shooting your mouth off at other members will get you nowhere around here.

Either straighten up or GET LOST ............ 8)
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Post by ricktendo64 » Sat Oct 26, 2013 10:57 am

ELiTE, you do know this is primarily a XP forum?

Also why do you feel the need to post your opinions about XP (in a XP updatepack thread) and not respect the view of others. He thinks XP is fine, you think its shit...

I think YOU are the one being disrespectful

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Post by ELiTE » Sat Oct 26, 2013 11:34 am

I posted an OPINION relating to a TOPIC. Sadly, there's a few folks here that need to learn PERSONAL ATTACKS are UNACCEPTABLE at ANY time and will NOT BE TOLERATED period.

EVERYBODY is ENTITLED to post an OPINION. Anyone is ENTITLED to disagree.

I have no personal opinions about XP. It is an object. It served a purpose. It also has it's limitations. Some STILL find it useful, some don't. It's a matter of preference. Definitely not something to get all worked up over in MY OPINION.

And no I don't think it's a good idea to limit the focus of this discussion board to mainly XP. That may have been the root from which this board grew but time marches on and so should our thinking. It's called 'Evolution'. Things, people, topics evolve. And so should we. But that is my opinion Only.

Win7 and Win8/8.1 are highly advanced OS more than worthy of the talents and minds that live here at RVM.

Apologies to user_hidden for another post gone off the rails.......... 8)
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Post by vmanda » Sat Oct 26, 2013 12:04 pm

vix wrote:I have used all major Windows versions from 3.0 to 8.1

XP is the only one that works perfectly in so many different hardware configurations and virtual machines as well.

I can't like Windows Vista, 7 or 8. They are too big.
I agree with this !!!

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Post by user_hidden » Sat Oct 26, 2013 9:48 pm

OK guys get back on topic !

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Post by compstuff » Thu Oct 31, 2013 7:59 am

@User_hidden
just wanted to says thanks for continuing to maintain the pack... haven't done an XP integration in ages but I am going to do a new one in last qtr 2013 and its nice to know the familiar tools are still here

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Post by long-lurker » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:41 am

ELiTE wrote:EVERYBODY is ENTITLED to post an OPINION. Anyone is ENTITLED to disagree.
So that's why the World refers to the USA as "Entitlement Nation"?

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Nov 13, 2013 8:09 am

sorry for the delay on the November update pack.
should be released later today or tomorrow.

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Nov 13, 2013 1:22 pm

No problem, I think we can wait a few days without hammering the refresh button. :)

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Nov 14, 2013 3:57 pm

20131112

updated Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool v5.6
updated Adobe Flash Player 11.9.900.152 ActiveX Control
updated KB931125 Root Certificates Update (May 2013)
addded KB2862152 replaced KB974392
added KB2868626
added KB2876331 replaced KB956802
added KB2888505 replaced KB2879017
added KB2890882 replaced KB2863058
added KB2892734
added KB2900986 replaced KB2820197

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