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Post by OnePiece Alb » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:11 am

Outbreaker wrote:@OnePiece Alb
If i uninstall the "Microsoft Update" in the "Add/Remove WIndows Components" should i not be redirected to "http://windowsupdate.microsoft.com" instead of "http://update.microsoft.com"?
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FClFkTK ... e=youtu.be
Yes, but is the WU itself which automatically tell\asks\suggests to install the MU (as you can see in the video the WU opens windowsupdate.microsoft.com and then sends you automatically in update.microsoft.com), there is no reason to use the WU and not MU ehhh, there's nothing to them FIX OKKKKKKK
Outbreaker wrote: With this:

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	11,,taskkill.exe,,,/IM "wuauclt.exe" /F
just for info

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	11,,taskkill.exe,,,"/IM wuauclt.exe /F"
However Home editions of Windows do not have TASKKILL, it's been 10 years now and not even remember everything now, and I have no desire to return to certain things ehhh

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Mar 11, 2015 6:49 am

Never use the Home version but wuauclt.exe can only be forcefully terminated and tskill.exe doesn't supports this. :-(
And deleting the file "DataStore.edb" by adding "DataStore.Files" to the "OPMWXPUP.inf" file will fix the redirect problem when uninstalling the "Microsoft Update". ;-)

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Post by Atari800xl » Wed Mar 11, 2015 7:36 am

Outbreaker wrote:Yes the new KB3034344 update has fixed the Front bug. ;-)
harkaz did also released a fix for this back in February.
Nice to see your confirmation of the fixed "FRONT" (sic) bug :-)
(Now we need a fix for the REAR and SIDE bugs). Just kidding...

Yes, I knew about the patch, but of course an official fix is even better, OnePiece doesn't do "fixes" anyway. It's a good test to see that Microsoft does indeed fix bugs like these, instead of abandoning (POS-)XP users altogether...

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Post by Atari800xl » Thu Mar 12, 2015 4:06 am

...just to confirm that my new XP iso (with Final XP pack and March 2015 POS Addon) is working nicely, no font problems.
My Monthly Thanks to OnePiece!

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Post by Outbreaker » Thu Mar 12, 2015 10:45 pm

@OnePiece Alb
I a little question that i wanted to ask you a long time ago.
Why do some HotFix "Location" registry entries in the "OPMWXPUP.inf" file have the Destination Directory "%65623%" all this "Location" registry entries are empty after the installation. :?

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:25 am

@Atari800xl
You're welcome.

@Outbreaker
What interests you in 2015 ?????????? today (in 2015) that DirID does not matter (has no importance) however that directory will indicate

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CopyAlways.DriverCab.files=65623 ; Destination determined at runtime
There are update like KB2859537 which do not copy\install all the files in the system, ntoskrnl.exe & ntkrnlpa.exe in System32 and ntkrpamp.exe & ntkrnlmp.exe in %WinDir%\Driver Cache\i386, so we use the %65623% to indicate that the files are in %WinDir%\Driver Cache\i386 (As we know in this case are in CD\I386), so the %65623% is to satisfy the Microsoft® QFE Checker Tool

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Post by ricktendo64 » Fri Mar 13, 2015 2:46 pm

65623 is not recognized by the INF, I did this to test

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[Version]
signature="$Windows NT$"
	
[defaultinstall]
registerdlls=echo.cmd

[echo.cmd]
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %65623%>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %11%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16422%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16427%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16428%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16429%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16430%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16431%>>%01%\text.txt"
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%65623%
C:\Windows\system32
C:\Program Files
C:\Program Files\Common Files
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
C:\Users\Public\Documents
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative Tools

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Fri Mar 13, 2015 5:29 pm

ricktendo64 wrote:65623 is not recognized by the INF, I did this to test

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[Version]
signature="$Windows NT$"
	
[defaultinstall]
registerdlls=echo.cmd

[echo.cmd]
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %65623%>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %11%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16422%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16427%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16428%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16429%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16430%>>%01%\text.txt"
11,,cmd.exe,,,"/c echo %16431%>>%01%\text.txt"
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%65623%
C:\Windows\system32
C:\Program Files
C:\Program Files\Common Files
C:\Program Files (x86)\Common Files
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Templates
C:\Users\Public\Documents
C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\Administrative Tools
who said that the INF knows %65623% ? look here for more http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 186#111186

when you write something you do not use 0 or "" etc etc etc but use phrases like NULL or nullptr or %REG_SZ% or another to indicate the purpose, so those who open the inf file when he sees the %65623% understand that we talk about a diretory Cache (DriverCab Diretory, %WinDir%\Driver Cache\i386 or CD\i386 or other, so understands that the destination is relative, which can ignore it) etc etc is that the point

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Post by 5eraph » Fri Mar 13, 2015 9:06 pm

I hard code it as "%10%\Driver Cache\i386" so there's no confusion, and QFECheck will know where to look.

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Sat Mar 14, 2015 1:22 am

5eraph wrote:I hard code it as "%10%\Driver Cache\i386" so there's no confusion, and QFECheck will know where to look.
as already mentioned above

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CopyAlways.DriverCab.files=65623 ; Destination determined at runtime
from what i understand it means that the destination is not default\fixed, but can be anyone\anywhere etc etc, so i think the %65623% make more sense and is the most correct\appropriate in this case

after indicating to QFECheck a destination where not find the file ehhhh risks that the QFECheck reports an error, for more is not correct because in our case the DriverCab\DriverCache is in CD\i386 (not %WinDir%\Driver Cache\i386)

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Post by Outbreaker » Sat Mar 14, 2015 2:03 am

So would it be no better to use "%10%\Driver Cache\i386"?

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Post by Atari800xl » Wed Apr 01, 2015 9:13 am

OnePiece, I saw you added WindowsXP-KB3020338-x86-embedded to your repository today.
Is there any info on this, please could you refer me to any info/ discussion on this.
Thanks for keeping everything up-to-date!

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:00 am

Hi Atari800xl, now I can not also use the VM, because it seems that in Windows 10.0.10049.0 VMware Workstation has problems, I mean I'm not following the list of hotfixes very carefully, the story of the KB3020338 a user ITA asked\reported that the KB3006226 (oleaut32.dll v5.1.2600.6663) is replaced by KB3020338 (oleaut32.dll v5.1.2600.6688), (I ask\mean seriously) I did something wrong ?? KB3020338 is a problematic hotfix ??

I do not know if I can help, because you know better than me the list of hotfixes them. i mean if you ask me now what I changed last month, even I remember ehhhh (I just do quick checks, only do manual work them, add\remove hotfix nothing else)

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Post by Atari800xl » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:27 am

Thanks for your reply. No, KB3020338 is not a problematic fix, I haven't even tried it yet, that's why I asked if there was information on it.
Maybe others have info on it. Should I add it to my packs/iso immediately, or can I wait till patch tuesday (in 2 weeks)? For now I think I'll wait.
Thanks again, looking forward to any new stuff in a few weeks.

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Wed Apr 01, 2015 10:34 am

Atari800xl wrote: that's why I asked if there was information on it.
Maybe others have info on it.
http://support.microsoft.com/en-us/kb/3020338 ???
Atari800xl wrote:Should I add it to my packs/iso immediately
i think so, it seems that was an unofficial hotfix, and that after past in official\public http://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/ ... 0KB3020338

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Post by Atari800xl » Fri Apr 17, 2015 5:26 am

Yes, OnePiece, I know about the official support.microsoft.com info, sorry that I was a bit unclear, I just meant "other"/ "more" info, you know "people are talking about it" or something... Never mind...

Also wanted to thank you for the new April POS updates in your "Box" folder. I created a new XP iso once again! (With your localized Final Post-SP3 pack and April 2015 POS Addon). I still appreciate it VERY MUCH!!!!

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Post by PJAmerica » Sun Apr 26, 2015 5:10 am

Hi OnePiece, I was wondering if there is a required patch for the .Net Framework stuff in this package like you made for 2 & 4 separately?

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Post by OnePiece Alb » Sat May 02, 2015 8:45 am

Hi, you just have to integrate after UpdatePack the DotNet35 True AddOn and DotNet40 True AddOn, or extract the DotNet (35/40) True Addon and take from them only NetFXxx.in_ and NetFXxx.cab and copy\replace in CD\I386 or inside UpdatePack

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Post by PJAmerica » Sat May 02, 2015 9:17 am

which addons exactly? I am unsure what you mean.

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Post by Stormit » Sun May 03, 2015 6:37 pm

Hi Just wondering if you added all the Net security updates or if you could give me links if you have them to add to the process, or if you plan to update this pack again. Thank You Again for all of your work and time and this great pack. :wink:

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Post by Stormit » Wed May 06, 2015 12:19 pm

Hi Sorry to bother you again. Are there any other important files like the Net Updates. Thank You very much for your help. :wink:

I Just Wanted to know if you have any thing else that you suggest that I should add in. Thank You :)
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Post by Atari800xl » Fri May 15, 2015 4:07 am

I really like the fact that you put all the (localized!) POSReady updates in your Box folder every month (and remove the superseded ones, which is also nice!), but I noticed the May version is not there yet, so instead of complaining, I decided to try and build my new May POS Addon myself. I still hope you will find the time to update the online folders, but if you can confirm I'm doing it right, we can build it ourselves, if in future you don't have time anymore:
This is what I did:
(1) https://catalog.update.microsoft.com/v7/site/Home.aspx
(2) Search for "xp embedded"
(3) Sort on "last update"
(4) Download 3061518, 3045171, 3050945 and ie8-3049563
(5) Download your previous set of updates from the box folder: Updatepack\Windows Xp Embedded\[language]\
(6) Check 5eraph's list to remove superseded updates:
http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... 021#138021
(7) Download your latest DXUPAC and create new POS Addon
[8] Use RyanVMi to integrate XP Final Updatepack and new POS Addon into XPSP3, etc. etc.

If I'm doing anything wrong here, maybe somebody can point it out, but it seems to work fine, and I'm using the new setup already.
As I said, it would be great if the "Box" folder (and others) will remain updated, but you warned us before that maybe you don't have time each month, so I would totally understand.
Thanks again for all your hard work!!

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Post by 5eraph » Fri May 15, 2015 10:07 am

You don't need KB3050945 with IE8 (the IE8 update includes v5.8 of JScript and VBScript). Haven't used DXUPAC yet. Otherwise, looks good. :)

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Post by Atari800xl » Tue May 19, 2015 3:12 am

OK, so now I'm actually starting to worry a bit about "OnePiece Alb"....
We understand you maybe can't find the time to update the folders every month, but if you really stop doing it, please give us a chance to say goodbye and thank you for all the years of hard work!
Come to think of it, is he active on other forums, does anybody know? Maybe Windows 7(+) related as well?

(But of course we hope he's just enjoying a nice holiday and will be back to us soon!)

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Post by bphlpt » Tue May 19, 2015 3:40 am

I'm sure he is busy with RL, and since nonno fabio disappeared he hs been spread quite thin supporting the various forums he participates in, but AFAIK OnePiece is at least still involved both here and at WinCert.

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Post by Atari800xl » Tue Jun 09, 2015 1:21 pm

OK, it's patch tuesday again, and using the catalog.update.microsoft.com search (as I did 4 posts back, looking for "xp embedded" or "posready 2009") I found:
Cumulative Security Update for Internet Explorer 8 for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3058515)
Security Update for WEPOS and POSReady 2009 (KB3033890)

I really hope OnePiece will put them in his Box (and other) folders, and/or 5eraph will tell us if these superseded any prior updates. After that, I'll try to make another June-2015 POS Addon using the latest DXUPAC, like I normally do (kinda starting to enjoy it, actually...)
Finders crossed!

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Post by Atari800xl » Sat Jul 04, 2015 9:13 am

5eraph wrote:You don't need KB3050945 with IE8 (the IE8 update includes v5.8 of JScript and VBScript). Haven't used DXUPAC yet. Otherwise, looks good. :)
So it looks like OnePiece Alb isn't coming back...
I would still like to keep this thread going, so we can still have all the info here to make localized POSReady addons, to be used with XPSP3 in your own language and OnePiece's latest Final XP packs (also in your own language). I hope you guys agree, it would be a shame to let it die out like this.

So next tuesday, I'll check the latest POS updates again, then check 5eraph's changelog to check for superseded updates, and build the localized addon with the latest DXUPAC version.
5eraph, I hope we can count on you to watch this thread a bit and check if the list of updates is still correct. See you next week, hopefully!!

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Post by 5eraph » Sun Jul 05, 2015 5:07 am

I read everything here, and I check the forum almost daily.

Sadly, I don't test OnePiece's pack very often. It has been well maintained, so I don't usually bother unless somebody reports a problem that I think I can help with.

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Post by Atari800xl » Sun Jul 05, 2015 7:15 am

5eraph wrote:Sadly, I don't test OnePiece's pack very often. It has been well maintained, so I don't usually bother unless somebody reports a problem that I think I can help with.
Like I said, I like it because it has all the different languages. So maybe we can do it like this: I will make the new OnePiece addon each month, then test the resulting iso (like I do now), if you could just help out with filtering out the superseded updates and be on "standby" for any problems that might arise. Would be great!!!

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Post by mf3imp » Sun Jul 05, 2015 1:41 pm

Does anyone know how dxupac work?
Long ago in a Italian forum was posted a decompiled version of the program and it was possible to see how it's done. Basically, it extracts the update files and then reassembles them adding some file already present, such as entries.ini and the main inf file, but they are already been filled and not dynamically generated.
So, whenever was recommended to put all the updates of the list, it was not for completeness but only because they were consired alwways present in the inf file, otherwise you'll get all error reported. From this point of view nLite is light years ahead, making a dynamic parsing files update.inf of each update.
Use the program to generate a posready update pack? The files should be added but all the additional registry information will not be retrieved from anywhere.
And this also applies to the additional components of the update pack, such as .NET, Silverlight and Flash.
An addon like the one for user_hidden update pack will be easier to handle, but the main inf file of this update pack (1 MB long) is kinda messy and editing it will require a lot of test.

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Post by skrell » Sun Jul 05, 2015 10:01 pm

Atari800xl wrote:...just to confirm that my new XP iso (with Final XP pack and March 2015 POS Addon) is working nicely, no font problems.
My Monthly Thanks to OnePiece!
What is "Final XP pack" ?

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Post by Atari800xl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 12:06 am

Skrell, from memory, this is what I do each month: (1) Start with XPSP3 (2) Add OnePiece localized Final XP updatepack with RyanVMi (OnePiece's final version is 1.06, 20141216, I have a selfmade version with his latest components from 20150426) (2) In the same run, also add POSAddon (self-made using DXUPAC and OnePiece/5eraph's lists of POS updates) (3) With nLite I onll change the XP setup to classic w2000 style and remove help systen (4) Add sata drivers with DPBase, 10.06 is still good enough for me (5) UltraISO: I open my Easyboot-created multiboot iso template and add the xp folders: $i386, $oem$\ subfolders for autologon and drivers, add hosts file, remove the i386\lang\ folder (100mb), add WINNT.SIF (controls which OnePiece components are actually used at setup time, save as XP20150615.iso. (6) This step is totally optional, but ultra-cool: Install using WINPESE bootable USB and WinNTSetup (installs any other updated OS as well)

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Post by skrell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 9:32 am

@Atari800xl
Would you be willing to share your selfmade versions of OnePeice's final version and POSAddon (made using DXUPAC) ?
Also do you use any software that requires dotnet framework v2? Have you noticed any problems with them?

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Post by Atari800xl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 1:30 pm

skrell, the whole point of the OnePiece packs is the fact that it's easy to make for yourself. Besides, mine is in a language you don't want. Just ask in this topic, I'm sure you'll have it done in no time...

Go to OnePiece's box folder:

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https://app.box.com/s/lwfwd77nw0ctrdi7hnai/1/1965695776#/s/lwfwd77nw0ctrdi7hnai?&_suid=140730670770308423947868676209
Download "dxupac.exe".
Open "UpdatePack" folder, download "INTL" and "English" folders (or your language).
Make a workfolder (eg. d:\makepac). Move dxupac.exe to d:\makepac. Make a subfolder d:\makepac\updates. Copy all the updates into the \updates folder (intl and language-specific). If you have all that done, report back here (I will only continue if you give me some feedback).

I'm not sure about dotnet v2. Do you have something for me to test?[/code]

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Post by bphlpt » Mon Jul 06, 2015 6:36 pm

Hey @5eraph and/or @Ryan,

If OnePiece has indeed made his last appearance, disappointing but life happens, would it be possible to mirror his latest stuff here, or somewhere else such that it can be preserved as long as it is needed/useful? Thanks in advance for your consideration. :)

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Post by skrell » Mon Jul 06, 2015 8:15 pm

Atari800xl wrote:skrell, the whole point of the ...
I've completed the steps so far. :) Also I really appreciate you stepping me through this!

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Post by Atari800xl » Mon Jul 06, 2015 11:34 pm

bphlpt, that's a very goo idea.

skrell, thanks for reporting back. As I said, I need to do this in steps, and need feedback from time to time. I'm taking the steps from my own notes, so we'll get there soon...

OnePiece decided to make a clear distinction between official XP updates and POS updates, that why we're making a separate "XP update pack" first and a "POSReady Addon" later.
Let's continue from the previous steps: (b1) Start d:\makepac\dxupac.exe. (b2) "Choose language": pick the correct one (very important! this should be the language of the localized updates you downloaded before). (b3) In the first "browse" dropdown, browse to d:\makepac\updates. (b4) Press "Start".
Your new localized Final XP update pack should now be in d:\makepac. Please familiarize yourself with the steps you did just now, look at the files in d:\makepac\updates as well, maybe there are newer versions in OnePiece's "box" folder, try it out, make another new pack, etc. If you have some spare time, you can already test integrating this pack into your XPSP3 source with RyanVMi. Try different component settings in WINNT.SIF:

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[Components]

; BitLockerToGo = BitLocker To Go Reader
; BrowserChoice = Browser Choice
; DirectX       = DirectX Post-SP3 Update
; ICCDSCD       = Windows Feature Pack for Storage
; IMAPI2        = Image Mastering API
; MDX           = DirectX Managed Code
; MSXML4        = MSXML 4.0 SP3 Parser (KB2721691)
; MU            = Microsoft Update
; NETFX30       = Microsoft .NET Framework 3.0 Service Pack 2
; NETFX35       = Microsoft .NET Framework 3.5 SP1
; NETFX40       = Microsoft .NET Framework 4
; PowerShell    = Windows PowerShell
; PowerShellISE = Windows PowerShell ISE
; Silverlight   = Microsoft Silverlight
; WDSearch      = Windows Desktop Search
; WgaNotify     = Windows Genuine Advantage Notifications
; WinRM         = Windows Remote Management (WS-Management)
; WRMC          = Windows Rights Management Client
; XP_EOS        = Microsoft Windows XP End of Service Notification

BitLockerToGo = Off
BrowserChoice = Off
; DirectX       = Off
ICCDSCD       = Off
IMAPI2        = Off
MDX           = Off
; MSXML4        = Off
MU            = Off
; NETFX30       = Off
; NETFX35       = Off
NETFX40       = Off
PowerShell    = Off
PowerShellISE = Off
Silverlight   = Off
WDSearch      = Off
WgaNotify     = Off
WinRM         = Off
WRMC          = Off
XP_EOS        = Off

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Post by bphlpt » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:48 am

@Atari800xl,

Thank you for the detailed instructions you are putting together.

Just to be absolutely clear, for me and any other newbies to fine tuning your own pack, you comment out ( ; ) the lines for the component/feature you DO want to keep/install, while those components which remain with xxxx = OFF are NOT installed, correct? eg You are keeping .NET 3.0 and 3.5, but are not installing .NET 4.0, correct?

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Post by Atari800xl » Tue Jul 07, 2015 3:05 am

Nice one bphlpt!!! I was going to explain this, but I thought the explanation might get more complicated than the "problem"! Very nice to see you're at least paying attention! :-)

Yes, it's a double-negative thing: The lines all said "off", and I decided to leave it that way. All "off" lines that are commented out mean: "on".
Sorry, don't exactly remember why I did it that way, but let's not change/ complicate things now, because I have no time to test any changes, I just do this from my tried and tested notes!

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Post by skrell » Tue Jul 07, 2015 8:43 am

Atari800xl wrote:skrell, thanks for reporting back....
Atari,
So i did exactly what you said last night and tried to integrate my new "update" pack (i haven't gotten to the POS yet..) with nlite + some other addons and tested it in virtualbox. 3 odd things i encountered:

1. One of the addons i installed AFTER the OAP (onepiece addon pack) required dotnet framework 2 (paint.net) and during the silent install complained that it didn't see it installed even though once the windows install finished i DID see dotnet 2 installed correctly.

2. I also installed Kel's CPL addon pack AFTER OAP and NONE of the CPL programs looked to be installed.

3. I didn't have any shortcuts in my start menu for IE8 OR WMP....even though i'm pretty sure they were installed....


Should i NOT be doing this with nlite? If i can use nlite, shoudl i do this in 2 steps?

Step 1) Install update pack with nlite and build a new iso
Step 2) Add addons and remove components using nlite on NEW iso image?

THANKS AGAIN FOR HELPING!!!

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Post by Atari800xl » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:31 am

I always use RyanVM Integrator 1.6.1 beta2.1 for integrating the Final XP pack and POS Addon into my XPSP3 source. If you're doing it with nLite, you're on your own, sorry (as I said, I use nLite only afterwards, for a very few tweaks). I must admit I never had any dotnet framework problems, but never use paint.net either.
Maybe to a quick test with RyanVMi as well?

EDIT: I just found Paint.NET 3.0 on oldapps.com. Seems to run just fine...

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Post by ianymaty » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:01 pm

As I remember you should never run nLite twice on the same source, problems can arise.

My experience is to integrate all with RVMi than use nLite to unnattend and some tweeks. All works well.

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Post by skrell » Tue Jul 07, 2015 12:40 pm

@Atari800xl/ianymatry
Ok guys i'll give it a shot tonight! Also can you please post the steps to make the POS Addon? I assume it's the same as the UpdatePacK?

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Post by Atari800xl » Tue Jul 07, 2015 1:17 pm

skrell, the addon pack is much more involved. You need to collect the updates first (partly from OnePiece's [outdated] folder, partly from your own downloads), after making the Addon with DXUPAC, there are some necessary edits. It has been described in this thread before, but I can guide you through it next weekend, when I have a bit more time.

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Post by skrell » Tue Jul 07, 2015 4:22 pm

Atari800xl wrote:skrell, the addon pack is much ....
Any chance you could just make me an English version in the meantime and upload it somewhere for me to play with ?

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Post by skrell » Tue Jul 07, 2015 10:53 pm

So using RyanVM Integrator with a fully up to date OnePiece Post SP3 update pack and then remove some components with nlite I get the following errors.

1. Can someone here please try running this on a fully up to date build http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.p ... sc&start=0
When i run it i get an error saying , "Can't connect to WMI service" ????

2. There are NO shortcuts in my start menu for IE8 or WMP. Can someone confirm this too?

Once again, I'm ONLY using OnePiece's Update Pack and removing the SAME components using Nlite that i have for YEARS without problems.

My next step is to JUST ryanvm's integrator + OnePiece Post SP3 updateppack and see if i STILL get these errors.

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Post by Atari800xl » Tue Jul 07, 2015 11:55 pm

skrell wrote:My next step is to JUST ryanvm's integrator + OnePiece Post SP3 updateppack and see if i STILL get these errors.
I guess that should have been the first step.
I will not be able to create a ready-made POS addon for you. The whole point is you being able to make it yourself (maybe for years to come).
You know, like giving you a fish, opposed to teaching you to fish (and you teaching others).

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Post by bphlpt » Wed Jul 08, 2015 4:49 am

Atari800xl wrote:You know, like giving you a fish, opposed to teaching you to fish (and you teaching others).
Very, very appropriate, as long as the instructions are clear and complete and the understanding on both sides is such that you don't run into a situation such as ...

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Instructor: Tie the hook on the line, put a worm on it, and drop it in the water.

Student: I tried exactly that and it didn't work.

Instructor: What do you mean it didn't work?

Student: Usually the hook fell off the line. When it did stay on I had a very hard time getting the worm to stay on the hook. It kept falling off. And the one time it stayed on, the fish just took it and swam away.

Instructor: That doesn't seem very likely. Getting the hook to stay on the line when it's tied on to the little loop on the end is usually very secure, and when you put the barb on the other end through the worm it should keep the worm on the hook and make it difficult for the fish to get the worm off and just swim away.

Student: Ohhhhh! You tie the line onto the end of hook with the loop! You didn't say that!
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You get the idea. :) Sometimes the student is missing a very, very basic part of the understanding that the instructor assumes that he already knows. Don't get me wrong, I'm not implying that your instructions are faulty in any way at all, but if any confusion occurs, it's usually a good idea to make sure the student hasn't missed something simple early on.

Your point about taking little steps and testing to see if each step worked before taking the next step, rather than trying to do everything all at once the first time, is also a good one, and is a basic tool of troubleshooting. It quickly shows where things are going wrong and catches mistakes early. It might seem to take extra time to do it that way, and the student often will resist, but it often takes less time in the long run. It also makes it easier to modify the procedure later if you want to add or remove anything.

Keep up the good work! Once the instructions are complete, and skrell has completed the lesson successfully, it might be helpful to others if you could post the complete detailed instructions, perhaps including screenshots and links to other related instructions and any helpful tools, in a single post, that I'm sure 5eraph or Ryan would be happy to sticky in an appropriate place. I know that is extra work for you, but you might be surprised. I often find that I learn something myself in the process of teaching someone else. And having the instructions laid out in a manner that has been proven that others can understand and follow successfully will probably be handy for you as well as the community as a whole. Just a thought.

Thank you very much for your continued involvement here at RyanVM!

Cheers and Regards

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Post by skrell » Wed Jul 08, 2015 8:49 am

Atari800xl wrote:I guess that should have been the first...
Ok no problem i just figured I'd ask. However in the meantime, can you, or anyone, please answer my 2 questions so i can troubleshoot this on my own?

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