KB925902 & KB935448

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Tue Apr 03, 2007 11:30 pm

Just a heads up that KB935448 should be included when you include KB925902 because of the reason outlined in KB935448: http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935448/

MrNxDmX · Post by **MrNxDmX** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:48 pm

Correction: Not KB925092, its KB925902

P1R4T3 · Post by **P1R4T3** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 6:53 pm

This patch as a real mess.
Check this out
http://www.dslreports.com/shownews/82781
On my PC Windows Desktop Search has stopped working fter installing this patch.

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 7:17 pm

The hhctrl.ocx in 935448 is the same version as the hhctrl.ocx in 928843, 5.2.3790.2847, but they are different files with different sums. So you shouldn't pay attention to the version.

C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB935448$>md5sum hhctrl.ocx
dc0613ae860a306cadc221e8e6e3d2a5 *hhctrl.ocx

C:\WINDOWS\$NtUninstallKB935448$>cd ../system32

C:\WINDOWS\system32>md5sum hhctrl.ocx
4102af7672483e4c0ab248a1c69bc332 *hhctrl.ocx

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 8:16 pm

I'm guessing (without having actually checked myself) that one is QFE and one is GDR?

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:17 pm

RyanVM wrote:I'm guessing (without having actually checked myself) that one is QFE and one is GDR?

Both files say 5.2.3790.2847 (srv03_sp1_qfe.061210-2319)

Post by **RyanVM** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:23 pm

When you extracted the two hotfixes, what directories were the files in?

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Wed Apr 04, 2007 9:37 pm

Each hotfix has a gdr and a qfe folder but both of those files are from qfe, as can be seen in the file's properties.

Am I not supposed to have qfe?

MrNxDmX · Post by **MrNxDmX** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 11:53 am

I can confirm that the QFE versions of hhctrl.ocx files in KB935448 and KB928843 have SAME version numbers but DIFFERENT file hashes. (This is in Turkish hotfixes)

Also, anybody installed these hotfixes? Can you tell us if you got errors (like fatal ones) exactly after adding those fixes?

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 12:47 pm

Actually I haven't had any problems with 925902 or any past hotfix. I can't understand why other people do, though.

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 2:34 pm

I was planning on releasing 2.1.9 at the end of this week (since MS has already said there will be no other security updates released this month, not even MRT), but with all the problems reported, I think I'm going to wait until next week to see if they re-release the fix. They've done that in the past for buggy security updates.

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 3:14 pm

$100 says those complaining of no boot and other serious problems are the same people who altered their system in a negative way like http://support.microsoft.com/kb/909444

That one wasn't re-released. It was not caused by the hotfix.

They are still releasing more hotfixes on tuesday.

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/remark,18112686

MrNxDmX · Post by **MrNxDmX** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 4:46 pm

RyanVM wrote:(since MS has already said there will be no other security updates released this month, not even MRT)

Hey Ryan, have u seen this?
http://msfn.org/comments.php?shownews=19882

Details here: http://www.microsoft.com/technet/securi ... vance.mspx

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Apr 05, 2007 5:31 pm

hmm, that seems to contradict the email I received from them earlier. Oh well, that cements it then

bugger · Post by **bugger** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 3:07 pm

When user32.dll conflicts with hhctrl.ocx, KB935448 will fix those problems. If it is anything other than hhctrl.ocx, like shell32.dll, it is the result of some sort of theming that uses modified system files. XP themes don't modify system files, so this is purely a result of a third-party. AVG was failing in those systems with modified system files with Brico packs.

As for non-boot or missing USB issues? Uh-huh

code65536 · Post by **code65536** » Fri Apr 06, 2007 7:56 pm

RyanVM wrote:I think I'm going to wait until next week to see if they re-release the fix. They've done that in the past for buggy security updates.

Well, it's not so much a bug as just a memory address conflict. So it is unlikely that they will re-release 925902. They will, however release 935448 as a part of Automatic Updates. Ideally, 925902 would have included the updated hhctrl.ocx found in 935448, but it looks like that it'll remain in two separate packages.

See their stance on the 935448 conflict here:
http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2 ... dated.aspx

code65536 · Post by **code65536** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:22 am

Looks like there are even more problems surfacing from KB925902...

See this:
http://blogs.technet.com/msrc/archive/2 ... 25902.aspx

And also see KB935843:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/935843

Post by **RyanVM** » Thu Apr 19, 2007 9:59 am

Well, it goes without saying that 935843 will be in the next pack release.