RyanVM Update Pack 1.0.5 - Released January 11, 2005

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Post by leviathan » Wed Jan 26, 2005 11:19 pm

Well I have an okay edition of Windows XP. I actually paid for mine. Yeah for college student discounts :D

The thing I'm worried about is the fact that Microsoft wants to check to make sure you have a legit copy of Windows XP in order to download their update. The update files themselves will probably still install in Windows XP, if you get them from other than Microsoft.

The legal issue I could see Microsoft putting up is that Ryan might be accused of subverting Microsoft's anti-piracy system by effectively downloading the updates from Microsoft and redistributing them to people who might not have a legitimate copy of Windows XP.

I've seen the forums of the folks at Autopatcher, and they are going to be facing the same problems. I'm concerned that Microsoft might send a nasty e-mail to Ryan saying "You are subverting our anti-piracy software, which is illegal in some End User License Agreement. Stop distributing your package or face legal action."

I'm going to start reading through Microsoft's EULAs and see if they have anything documented about this being illegal. I might have to even contact them, and ask about something like Autopatcher.

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Post by RyanVM » Thu Jan 27, 2005 12:36 am

I'll take my chances. MS already knows about my site (I've actually gotten an email Re: my .NET installer from a guy at MS :P). If they're truly that worried about it, I'll take it down.
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Post by itsme_4ucz » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:23 am

I'll take my chances. MS already knows about my site (I've actually gotten an email Re: my .NET installer from a guy at MS ). If they're truly that worried about it, I'll take it down.
If MS as.....le takes action .its good u take down the site And contineue
ur project as hobby & let it out in p2p networks .it ll help to many out there
IF HAPPENS SOO !

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:41 am

Nah, what I'd do is make the INFs and hotfix extraction directions available on my site and leave the work up to you guys.
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Post by RogueSpear » Fri Jan 28, 2005 7:47 am

I could be wrong, but I think that the legit check is going to be for Automatic Updates and the Windows Update web site. I think you'll still be able to download the hotfixes from the individual KB article web pages.

I'll be interested to see how all of this shakes out and how many days it takes to be subverted.

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Jan 28, 2005 8:42 am

I think you read wrong, Rogue. It's the other way around ;)

Jeebus, I can't get over how everybody has their panties in such a twist over this. All it is is making mandatory what's currently optional. That's all MS has said they're doing.
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Post by RogueSpear » Fri Jan 28, 2005 11:47 am

If that's the case, then the whole thing seems rather pointless. I would guess 95% of Windows users could never even find the Knowledge Base, let alone negotiate it in order to find a hotfix. Whereas Automatic Updates is turned on by default now in SP2.

I guess we'll have to see.

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Jan 28, 2005 12:01 pm

It's the Microsoft download center which has the WGA program in place currently.
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Post by RyanVM » Fri Jan 28, 2005 4:58 pm

For a little enticement for what's to come, here's the changelog for Version 1.1 (I'm aiming for a February 1 release).
  • ALL: Added KB319740 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB842520 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB867795 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB870975 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB870997 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB873392 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB883483 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB883507 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB884558 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB884573 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB884575 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB884868 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB885267 Hotfix. (Replaces KB884020 Hotfix).
  • ALL: Added KB885270 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB885295 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB885423 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB885443 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB885453 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB885855 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB886199 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB886809 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB887131 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Added KB890831 Hotfix.
  • ALL: Driver cabs now merged when necessary.
  • ALL: Fixed issue where KB885836 was showing up on Windows Update.
  • ALL: Hotfixed files are added to driver.cab when file exists previously in it.
  • FULL & MEDIUM: Added Microsoft Web Folders 9.60.6715.0 (KB892211).
  • FULL & MEDIUM: Removed hacked sfc_os and uxtheme DLLs. They are still available as seperate downloads.
Which leads me to one thing, I'm looking for a few people willing to test this out prior to a full release, preferably on a live system (I can test them in VirtualPC just fine :P). If you want to help with that, send me a PM and we can talk.

EDIT: Also, the website is getting some much-needed updating. There will be full installation guides (both manual and nLite integration) with screenshots, along with a more consistent look across all the pages. I'll also be updating the FAQ now that some of the issues shouldn't be present anymore (like imapi.sys not copying properly).

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Post by Mavericks choice » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:45 am

Nice one Ryan looking forward to it. :o
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Post by itsme_4ucz » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:54 am

Thankyou ryanvm

For ur good work,aploud !

wishing u the best & hoping the best.

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Post by leviathan » Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:16 pm

Sounds awesome. I can't wait to see it.

Keep up the fantasic work.
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Post by maska » Sat Jan 29, 2005 3:48 pm

I have a question regarding the Update Pack: a few days ago I reformated and didn't check the option of patching SFC in nLite. After that qfecheck reported that all updates should be reinstalled. Formated again and this time patched SFC. Everything was fine after that. So: is that SFC so important? :?

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Post by RyanVM » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:11 pm

Never heard of that one before. You might want to ask nuhi about that...
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Post by maska » Sat Jan 29, 2005 4:56 pm

I doubt I did something wrong because I made the same things when creating the ISO except patching SFC. Yes, I'll ask nuhi about it.

Besides that, are there any reason the Update Pack couldn't be installed successfully with nLite?

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Post by RyanVM » Sat Jan 29, 2005 5:09 pm

No. I've been talking with nuhi today, actually, and I mentioned your problem to him. nLite is going to require some modification in order to work properly with version 1.1, so I'll be sure to look at that when I'm testing things out.
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