WINDOWS XP WILL NEVER DIE .

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WINDOWS XP WILL NEVER DIE .

Post by Dibya » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:00 am

This net market share showing us that xp nerver wants to leave its position.Ican chelangeeeee that there will at least 9% XP user connected with internet in year 2025.

Windows 7, 55.71%
Windows XP 11.68%
Windows 8.1 10.68%
Windows 10 7.94%
Mac OS X 10.10 3.45%
Windows XP community is much stronger than any os.
I want to thanks to Ryan and Signet for Intrigator, Nuhi for nlite (my most favourit tool) and all members of ryanvm forum,wincert and msfn and all guys and gals who made the XP imortal operating system.
My elder brother (Subhendu Pattanayak) and I have done survey why peoples loves xp anway and why they donot want to upgrade ?After useless meaning less warning of Microsoft,they want to put money on there pocket by forcing users to upgrade. Myself I donot want upgrade anyway.Most of users complained that Windows 7 was boghas operating
system with UAC ,which always cause a useless poblem that explorer.exe
encountered a problem error always. All gamers said that they have much more fps in windows XP as compared to 7 or 8.1. I donot want to break any law , lot of peoples in your managed to port DirectX 10/11 from
windows 7/vista to XP ,even my one brother managed to run GTA V in XP which is some what impossible .Personally I have managed to ASSEANS CREAD 3 in XP,byway cannot provide in such a cracking or hacking . Easily XP user can run dot net framework 4.5 apps in xp easly with mono opensoarce project ,I personally realy happy as all members of this forum is working for XP.
OUR BENCHMARKING REPORT::

Windows XP SP3 Scores
C:\Windows\ directory size: 3.67GB
3D Mark 2001: 15264 @ 1024x768, 0xAA
3D Mark 2005: 6719 @ 1280x1024
3D Mark 2005: 6087 @ 1600x1200
Crysis: 70.66 fps @ 1280x1024, Low, DX9, 32 bit
Crysis: 67.02 fps @ 1680x1050, Low, DX9, 32 bit
Doom 3: 67.18 fps @ 1280x1024, High
Doom 3: 54.87 fps @ 1600x1200, High
UT3: 23.20 fps @ 1280x1024, Medium
UT3: 23.09 fps @ 1680x1050, Medium
WinRAR compression: 1:07 (141MB Starcraft folder)
DIVX upscale: 1:22:58
Sonar 8 mix-down:00 :47 (Custom 4-track mix of the Hymn to the Red October)

Windows 7 Professional x86
C:\Windows\ directory size: 7.95 GB
3D Mark 2001: 12508 @ 1024x768, 0xAA
3D Mark 2001: 10362 @ 1024x768, 4xAA
3D Mark 2005: 5605 @ 1280x1024
3D Mark 2005: 5411 @ 1600x1200
Crysis: Crash @ 1280x1024, Low, DX9, 32 bit (driver related - unsolvable)
Crysis: 22.84 fps @ 1680x1050, Low, DX9, 32 bit
Doom 3: 27.83 fps @ 1280x1024, High
Doom 3: 21.87 fps @ 1600x1200, High
UT 3: 16.30 @ 1280x1024, Medium
UT 3: 15.37 @ 1280x1024, Medium
WinRAR compression: 3:23 (141MB Starcraft folder)
DIVX upscale: 6:36:29
Sonar 8 mix-down: 3:24 (Custom 4-track mix of the Hymn to the Red October)

Performance Delta (7's values relative to XP's values)
C:\Windows\ directory size: +216.62%
3D Mark 2001 (0xAA): -18.06%
3D Mark 2001 (4xAA): NA
3D Mark 2005 (1280x1024): -16.58%
3D Mark 2005 (1600x1200): -11.11%
Crysis (1280x1024): NA
Crysis (1680x1050): -30.83%
Doom 3 (1280x1024): -49.57%
Doom 3 (1600x1200): -57.01%
UT3 (1280x1024): -29.75%
UT3 (1680x1050): -33.43%
WinRAR compression: -8.56%
DIVX upscale: -4.25%
Sonar 8 mix-down: -45.71%


Conclusion
Those who have machines and were clinging to the hope that 7 might improve your performance one last time - forget it. In our case, at least, the software and driver support just isn't there - the new OS resulted in massive performance losses. Whether old hardware will show the same I've still yet to find (see my other thread), so who to blame for the performance loss is a little unkown right now.
ANY WAY XP IS THE WINNER OF ALL TIME.
OUR TEST MACHINE SPECS::
AMD FX 8 CORE
AMD RADEEON 2gb
DDR3 8GB RAM x2
BOTH OS PAE IS HACKED TO REMOVE 4GB RAM LIMIT.
XP is winner.
XP CAN PERFORM MORE BETTER AS IT IS 11 MONTH OLD INSTALLATION WHERE AS 7 IS NEW FRESH INSTALL BUT THEN ALSO XP IS KING.
THANKS A LOT MY BROTHER FOR HELPING ME.
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Post by Dibya » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:01 am

PLEASE COMMENT

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Post by Dibya » Tue Nov 24, 2015 1:38 am

SORRY FOR MY BAD ENGLISH ,I AM REALLY NOT GOOD ON THAT

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Post by mooms » Tue Nov 24, 2015 2:46 pm

It really depends on your hardware, and your possibility to buy recent hardware.
To my opinion, Win7 is good, I don't have any trouble with explorer and UAC is not a bad thing (and can be deactivated if you want).
Win 8 and 10, on the other hand, are a real mess in my opinion.
XP is good for older hardware, but don't support newer hardware, in fact the most recent machines can't run it.
You should consider switching to Linux for the older machines, much more secure than XP.
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Post by superleiw » Tue Nov 24, 2015 3:24 pm

I will keep using XP on my older machines :)

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Post by Dibya » Wed Nov 25, 2015 12:38 am

Who told newer pc cannot run XP . you need little bit working .Upto 3rd generation intel no tweak is required but from 4thgeneration you have to set bios to legacy . You should slipstream sata raid driver with nlite.
http://www.win-raid.com ; for sata driver.
Driver packs with driverpack base will work fine.
You should keep every component upto date

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Post by =[FEAR]=JIGSAW » Wed Nov 25, 2015 3:55 am

I'm NOT looking back :shifty:

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Post by RJARRRPCGP » Sun Dec 06, 2015 11:12 am

XP is also usable on the Sabertooth 990FX R2.0!

Just set it to "IDE" in the BIOS and don't use the beige SATA ports!

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Post by kirk » Sun Dec 06, 2015 12:57 pm

Once evey monitor becomes touch point, Xp will die as XP can't run touch screens

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Post by bphlpt » Sun Dec 06, 2015 9:03 pm

kirk wrote:Once evey monitor becomes touch point, Xp will die as XP can't run touch screens
Well, the Tablet PC version of XP can, but not necessarily very well and maybe XP can't handle newer touch screens if drivers are not available. Anyway, even if you were using a touch screen monitor that XP can't handle, I don't think that means that you have to use the touch screen part of it. I would assume that you can plug in a keyboard and mouse and use the touch screen monitor as just a monitor. So as long as motherboards with USB ports are available ...

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Post by Dibya » Wed Dec 09, 2015 11:02 am

I think xp fans who are having knowledge will may port this touch screan driver to xp.
Now , There is lot of work is going on porting nvme ssd driver to xp.

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Post by NT Five » Tue Feb 23, 2016 6:54 pm

As a big XP fan and power user I can say with great determination that I'm willing to jump through a lot of hoops to keep XP as my main OS for at least 10 years and maybe much longer !
I've got 11 new (low budget) XP compatible motherboards in long term storage.

They will be outdated soon because technology advances rapidly but at least I will have some low-end compatible hardware to run XP on when compatibility issues with newer hardware will make things difficult in the future...

But if we start working as a community on driver development, reverse engineering so we can do some serious back-porting of security updates and OS features we will be able to keep XP alive and patched for the next decade or two and run it on the latest hardware.

It's time to get our hands dirty.
The attitude of people that laugh and scouf at us for clinging on to an "obsolete" OS should should spark our motivation to prove them wrong.
I think XP is a beautiful OS and it deserves to be maintained, patched and improved.

When MS pulls the plug on the XP embedded patches in April of 2019 we will have an OS that has been used, tested, tweaked and pounded on for almost 20 years and it will be the most stable and reliable MS OS ever !
Because of it's old age, it will be extremely lightweight compared to the bloated OSes Microsoft is developing nowadays so it will be lightning fast on new hardware (if we manage to back-port drivers to XP) and we will have an excellent user eXPerience.

I think we should keep XP alive for nostalgic and historic reasons and just because we can !

Windows XP forever !

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Post by NT Five » Tue Feb 23, 2016 7:04 pm

RJARRRPCGP wrote:XP is also usable on the Sabertooth 990FX R2.0!

Just set it to "IDE" in the BIOS and don't use the beige SATA ports!
WOW...
Thanks for mentioning this !

I just want to the Asus website and it states that it is compatible with XP.
A bit expensive but it looks like a nice piece of kit I might want to buy if they lower the price a bit in a year or two...

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Post by Dibya » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:45 pm

you are absolutely correct NT Five.
Who told mordern hardware cannot run Xp?
I am running XP fine under intel Skylake (i7-6700k)
It is a superfast monster.
If somebody want a reverse enginear , i am always here (Also not good on that)
having not much but little knowledge in c,c++
You can see a post here in softpedi a news :: http://news.softpedia.com/news/intel-sk ... 9995.shtml
Somebody from china overclocked skylake pc to 7ghz and running xp.
After 2or 3 decades there will be no vulnerably at all in windows xp as all holes will be patched.

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Post by Dibya » Tue Feb 23, 2016 9:49 pm

mooms wrote:It really depends on your hardware, and your possibility to buy recent hardware.
To my opinion, Win7 is good, I don't have any trouble with explorer and UAC is not a bad thing (and can be deactivated if you want).
Win 8 and 10, on the other hand, are a real mess in my opinion.
XP is good for older hardware, but don't support newer hardware, in fact the most recent machines can't run it.
You should consider switching to Linux for the older machines, much more secure than XP.
who told you mordern hardware cannot run xp?
It only required to be proper raid / ahci and acpi/chipset driver to be intrigated before installation

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Post by NT Five » Tue Feb 23, 2016 10:26 pm

Getting the right drivers will be a problem in the future because it is already problematic today.
Can XP run on the latest Intel motherboards with proper drivers for CPU, video and integrated USB 3 ?
I don't think so but I might be wrong.
It might be possible to run XP with Microsoft's crappy standard VGA driver of course but we need real drivers for XP soon because without proper drivers XP will die...

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Post by Dibya » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:17 pm

I am working on a driver patcher which will patch win7 (.sys) file to force them work on xp :D :D :D

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Post by Dibya » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:24 pm

RJARRRPCGP wrote:XP is also usable on the Sabertooth 990FX R2.0!

Just set it to "IDE" in the BIOS and don't use the beige SATA ports!
why IDE , AHCI can give more performance. Simply use driverpack base or nlite for intrigation of proper driver

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Post by NT Five » Tue Feb 23, 2016 11:38 pm

Dibya wrote:I am working on a driver patcher which will patch win7 (.sys) file to force them work on xp :D :D :D
That sounds great !
I am very interested in the subject.

Can you provide any documentation about the differences between xp and win 7 drivers ?
Any links to other forums or technical docs ?
I really want to get more info so I can study things and maybe help in developing / modding / patching...

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Post by Dibya » Wed Feb 24, 2016 7:35 am

@NT Five
My friend win7 and xp drivers are linked to their kerenal32.dll . A customized kerenal32.dll also few other will make xp to run 7 drivers.
I think Blackwingcat of msfn khown this patching better than me.
This nothing a script which it will make substitute win7 driver into winxp using old DDK

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Re: WINDOWS XP WILL NEVER DIE .

Post by umarmughal44 » Wed Nov 01, 2017 10:14 am

an you provide any documentation about the differences between xp and win 7 drivers ?
Any links to other forums or technical docs ?
I really want to get more info so I can study things and maybe help in developing /

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Re: WINDOWS XP WILL NEVER DIE .

Post by Destro » Tue Dec 12, 2017 2:05 am

The only thing that will ever kill XP is ReactOS in the future becoming better.

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