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KB912945 Problem

Post by jessry » Wed Mar 01, 2006 6:48 pm

I have tried to make an addon to integrate the new KB912945.
But there is a problem, when installing windows, at the oobe is an error, msoobe.html comes up with open/save/cancel. and no matter what ya choose, it wont go any further.

Any help would been good

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Post by RyanVM » Wed Mar 01, 2006 7:13 pm

Yep, I know exactly what you're talking about. I'll let you know if I figure it out.
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Post by keytotime » Wed Mar 01, 2006 8:20 pm

Can Msoobe be an activeX controller or linked to one?

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Post by RyanVM » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:13 pm

keytotime - the issue is much greater than just msoobe. It completely breaks IE as well. However, I have my suspicions that the issue lies with the hotfix itself. I'm working on confirming that right now.

EDIT: Yup, I just confirmed that integrating the hotfix with the /integrate switch causes the same problems. Looks like we've got a bug care of MS :rolleyes:

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Post by 5eraph » Wed Mar 01, 2006 9:20 pm

It seems like they've been breaking at least one hotfix a month lately. At least this one gets downloaded...

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Post by Fragbert » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:04 pm

RyanVM wrote:keytotime - the issue is much greater than just msoobe. It completely breaks IE as well. However, I have my suspicions that the issue lies with the hotfix itself. I'm working on confirming that right now.

EDIT: Yup, I just confirmed that integrating the hotfix with the /integrate switch causes the same problems. Looks like we've got a bug care of MS :rolleyes:
Is there another way to integrate this fix? RunOnceEx.cmd?

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Post by techtype » Thu Mar 02, 2006 4:13 pm

Fragbert wrote:
RyanVM wrote:keytotime - the issue is much greater than just msoobe. It completely breaks IE as well. However, I have my suspicions that the issue lies with the hotfix itself. I'm working on confirming that right now.

EDIT: Yup, I just confirmed that integrating the hotfix with the /integrate switch causes the same problems. Looks like we've got a bug care of MS :rolleyes:
Is there another way to integrate this fix? RunOnceEx.cmd?
It does work for me thru RunOnceEx.

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Post by nfm » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:37 pm

RyanVM wrote: EDIT: Yup, I just confirmed that integrating the hotfix with the /integrate switch causes the same problems. Looks like we've got a bug care of MS :rolleyes:
Same problem with x64 ;\
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Post by RyanVM » Thu Mar 02, 2006 10:57 pm

Kamil, if you haven't already done so (I just got home and haven't checked yet), you may want to post a note in the MSFN thread regarding x64 as well (though my suspicion is that the problem will also happen with 2K3)
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Post by nfm » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:03 am

mshtml.dll is the victim :twisted:

mshtml.dll (6.0.3790.2577 x64) GDR from KB905915, which I swapped after the install, fixes the problem. I'll get back to this tomorrow, now I need to catch some sleep.

I also think that swapping new mshtml.dll with GDR version of mshtml.dll will also correct this. I came to the conclusion that mshtml.dll from QFE is borked.

EDIT: Ryan I made note of this problem on msfn.
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Post by RyanVM » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:42 am

Kamil, I've tested with both the GDR and QFE versions, and both break it just the same. Nice catch on mshtml.dll, though.
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Post by boooggy » Fri Mar 03, 2006 4:20 am

confirm that mshtml.dll is the cause... i swap it with the one from 905915 and everything went fine except that WU wasnt pleased.....so i change the version with reshacker from 2802 to 2838 and it worked....wu was happy

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Post by 5eraph » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:16 am

ResHacking the file doesn't seem like the best solution... Does SFC give it the OK?

Maybe it would be better to include this hotfix when it's part of an IE cumulative update?

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Mar 03, 2006 9:22 am

My plan is to leave it and all future IE updates exhibiting the bug out of future update packs. I'm not going to resort to reshacking DLLs to make things work.
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Post by Fragbert » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:17 am

Yeah, installing it via RunOnceEx.cmd goes without issue using hotfix.exe /quite /nobackup (NOT /INTEGRATE). I guess this is the only option to get a clean slate on MSupdate until IE7 gets released (and who knows if it will play nice via known integration methods).

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Post by boooggy » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:31 am

well i disable sfc when i tested but anyway i will not use it in my packs.....was just a stupid solution till microsoft fix this patch.....doh.

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:38 am

Well, I guess we've already got one known issue for 2.0.4 when it comes out in a week and a half or so :P
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Post by boooggy » Fri Mar 03, 2006 11:53 am

same crap for windows 2003 server.........

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Post by RyanVM » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:18 pm

Just as I suspected ;) :P

So far, no response from the IE people. I'm willing to be patient, though.
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Post by boooggy » Fri Mar 03, 2006 12:22 pm

i remember that one of the ie patches had problems like few months ago......i start to become angy....:x

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Post by nfm » Fri Mar 03, 2006 7:37 pm

I also would like to add that KB912945 removes plugin.ocx when installing on current Windows. I wonder what would happen if plugin.oc_ and corresponding entries were removed from WIndows source. Why KB912945 doesn't need and removes plugin.ocx? Looks like we got testing to do...
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Post by RyanVM » Fri Mar 03, 2006 8:14 pm

I guess I'll just have to find out :P
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Post by boooggy » Sat Mar 04, 2006 2:17 am

i deleted plugin.ocx from the source and the entries but the error persist..... :evil:

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Post by Xable » Sat Mar 04, 2006 6:35 am

Yup been removing plugin.ocx from start and makes no diff.. first time i needed to use obsolete_files 8)

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Post by MEULC » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:59 am

This problem seems to be only with the english version. No problems adding it to the dutch update pack.

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Post by RyanVM » Sun Mar 05, 2006 1:22 pm

Sereby said he had no problems with the German version either. Very interesting.
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Post by boooggy » Sun Mar 05, 2006 3:40 pm

damn.....that is wierd but wtf ...is m$.....

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Post by RyanVM » Sun Mar 05, 2006 11:54 pm

We have a resolution! This is from an email I received from someone at MS who was referred to me by my contact there.
Thank you for reporting this issue. We have identified this to be a problem with the package for KB912945, that the /integrate switch does not work, we did make a fix for this, but it did not get into the build that we published, but will function normally for the next security update that will be released no later than 4/11/2006.

We will be posting a known issue to the KB article in the next couple of days.
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Post by boooggy » Mon Mar 06, 2006 2:13 am

just like i told u, ryan...

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Post by armond » Tue Mar 14, 2006 7:56 pm

Hi,
I'm using unattended install. I have UnattendSwitch setted to Yes in the [Unattended] section. If I integrate KB912945 should I have any problem?

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Post by RyanVM » Tue Mar 14, 2006 8:05 pm

Don't integrate it with /integrate. You'll be fine if you install it after the fact (called from svcpack.inf, runonceex, or whatever other way you want)
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Post by mindwarper » Mon Mar 27, 2006 11:47 am

RyanVM wrote:Don't integrate it with /integrate. You'll be fine if you install it after the fact (called from svcpack.inf, runonceex, or whatever other way you want)
I suppose this can easily be done with nLite 1.0 RC7+ versions or not ?
I am not that good in implementing runoncex/svcpack.inf manually...

Just curious that is all :)

Even simpler, I will just install your 2.0.4 pack and install windows from it etc... and use Windows Update/Microsoft to install it. Should also work, no ?

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