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Issues with Integrator 1.0.5

Post by abarax66 » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:13 am

I've tried multiple times to integrate both of RyanVM's Update Packs (2.0.1 and 2.0.2a) with the Integrator, and it proceeds at the beginning as it normally would. Then, a few seconds later, it states that integration is complete, and nothing is integrated. Here is the RVM_integrate log:
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Can't open input file: driver.cab.

File not found - driver\*
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\7Z.EXE-0223A3EF.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\7ZFM.EXE-0E30BD4B.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\7ZG.EXE-04CCF0C9.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\AD-AWARE.EXE-2ED3360E.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\ALZIP.EXE-328886AF.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\ATTRIB.EXE-39EAFB02.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\CABARC.EXE-2FA26B49.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\CMD.EXE-087B4001.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\COMMAND.EXE-3233AF14.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\CSRSS.EXE-12B63473.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DAMN NFO VIEWER.EXE-127082AD.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DAMNNF~1.EXE-1DD13C30.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DEFRAG.EXE-273F131E.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DETECTCD.EXE-037AA505.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DFRGNTFS.EXE-269967DF.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DUMPREP.EXE-1B46F901.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\DWWIN.EXE-30875ADC.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\EXPAND.EXE-2490DB85.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\EXPLORER.EXE-082F38A9.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\FOXIT.EXE-196DFAAC.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\GAMEHOUSE.TURTLE.BAY.[FULLVER-32251DFF.pf
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Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\GCASSERV.EXE-3660CD4E.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\GCASSERVALERT.EXE-0EAE6B5D.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\GIANTANTISPYWAREUPDATER.EXE-302A7DBD.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\GLJ90.TMP-194F88CF.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\IEXPLORE.EXE-27122324.pf
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Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\INTEGRATOR.EXE-37AF105C.pf
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Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\RVM_INTEGRATOR_1.0.5.EXE-18FBAA18.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\RYANVM INTEGRATOR 1.0.5.EXE-0D1E6C3E.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\RYANVM INTEGRATOR 1.0.5.EXE-3ABECC32.pf
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Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\VMWARE-VMX.EXE-36EB2CE2.pf
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Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\YUPDATER.EXE-3946FDDF.pf
Access denied - C:\WINDOWS\Prefetch\_REGDLL.TMP-04ACF5CC.pf
Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: 1394bus.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: atapi.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: bthprint.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: hal.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: halaacpi.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: halacpi.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: halapic.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: halmacpi.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: halmps.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: halsp.dl_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: hidir.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: http.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: imapi.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: intelppm.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: irbus.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: mrxsmb.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: ntkrnlmp.ex_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: ntoskrnl.ex_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: ohci1394.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: pci.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: pcmcia.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: rndismpx.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: sbp2port.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: scsiport.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: sdbus.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: usb8023x.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: usbccgp.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: usbehci.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: usbhub.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
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Can't open input file: usbport.sy_.

Microsoft (R) File Expansion Utility Version 5.1.2600.0
Copyright (C) Microsoft Corp 1990-1999. All rights reserved.

Can't open input file: usbstor.sy_.

Microsoft (R) Cabinet Maker - Version (32) 1.00.0601 (03/18/97)
Copyright (c) Microsoft Corp 1993-1997. All rights reserved.

Parsing directives
Parsing directives (driver.ddf: 1 lines)
0 bytes in 0 files
Executing directives
Total files: 0
Bytes before: 0
Bytes after: 0
After/Before: 0.00% compression
Time: 0.02 seconds ( 0 hr 0 min 0.02 sec)
Throughput: 0.00 Kb/second
Any help would be appreciated.

P.S. - Somebody recommended I use nLite, but I use RunOnceEx to integrate my programs, and nLite doesn't support that.

Thanks.

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Post by Siginet » Tue Jan 24, 2006 11:47 am

Can you post your integrate.ini as well?
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Re: Issues with Integrator 1.0.5

Post by FlyingGleek » Tue Jan 24, 2006 12:29 pm

abarax66 wrote:I've tried multiple times to integrate both of RyanVM's Update Packs (2.0.1 and 2.0.2a) with the Integrator, and it proceeds at the beginning as it normally would. Then, a few seconds later, it states that integration is complete, and nothing is integrated.

abarax66, it seems you're pointing to your Installed windows directory!

You need to Copy the contents of your original Windows XP setup disk To a folder on your harddrive and then point the integrator to it.

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Post by dgelwin » Tue Jan 24, 2006 1:56 pm

i shocked only flyinggleek noticed that, but he is right your pointing to your windows directory not your install directory, but im curious as to how in the hell the integrator recognized it as a xp source?
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Post by Siginet » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:10 pm

I noticed it too. I am wondering if it was an error due to a space in some area... or something. This is one of those errors that I need to see the integrator.ini file to help me know what could have been the problem. Because it should not be able to look at the windows directory... so somewhere there is a bug somehow. Even if it was a user side error... the integrator should not have attempted anything on the windows directory. I remember seeing something like this a long time ago in an older integrator. But... v1.1 should clear this up anyways. ;)
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Post by DisabledTrucker » Tue Jan 24, 2006 2:42 pm

When is this beloved 1.1 going to be ready for a release?!? :?: :mrgreen:
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Post by Siginet » Tue Jan 24, 2006 3:55 pm

Soon. ;) It is working very well. Paul is tweaking a couple of things and Ryan and I had been giving it a small face lift etc. But we plan on releaseing it any time now.
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Post by DisabledTrucker » Tue Jan 24, 2006 4:33 pm

That's great to know :D
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Post by RyanVM » Tue Jan 24, 2006 6:53 pm

1.1 will be done when it's done. I'm not going to OK its release until we're sure all the random kinks are worked out.
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Post by DisabledTrucker » Tue Jan 24, 2006 7:49 pm

Oh, I understand that, I was just curious how far along it was at this point...
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Post by Zacam » Tue Jan 24, 2006 8:10 pm

I have a similar problem as I posted here http://www.ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=1104.

Double checking mine though, mine isn't trying to use the windows directory as the source.

Integrator.ini

RVM_integrate.LOG

RVM_UpdateCAB.LOG

RVM_AddonCAB.LOG (included even though at the moment I'm not integrating any addons just to remove that as a potential source of being a problem.)

As per the last message of the linked thread, I did verify that the files will expand normally using both expand.exe and makecab.exe and modifype.exe is in location. And though my ini file indicates 2.0.1 I'm still experiencing the problem with 2.0.2a. I've also trying having source copied to disk and working directly on the source, source on disk and copying to another disk or directory on same disk, having source, work folder and patching all on the same disk or seperate disks, no avail. The one consistancy I kept in all tests were that at NO time were there spaces in the directory/file structure.

Since my post, I've also obtained a retail cd of XP with SP2 already merged into it, but at this time I have not yet utilized it for testing as I need to confirm if I can continue to use my non-activation required key on it in lieu of it's shipped key (which does require activation). I'm pretty sure I should be able to, but I'm making sure of it first.

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Post by DisabledTrucker » Tue Jan 24, 2006 9:35 pm

Zacam wrote:Since my post, I've also obtained a retail cd of XP with SP2 already merged into it, but at this time I have not yet utilized it for testing as I need to confirm if I can continue to use my non-activation required key on it in lieu of it's shipped key (which does require activation). I'm pretty sure I should be able to, but I'm making sure of it first.
If you're referring to the MSDN subscription type keys, they should work on any copy of Windows XP as long as it's the same version. In other words, XP Home Key's don't work on XP Pro, XP Pro doesn't work on MCE or Tablet, etc... If you're using a MSDN XP PRO Key it should recoginize it as such when you enter it in and let you procede, if you can't procede then you'll be stuck with using the key that come with it. In my experience, I have had no problems using MSDN keys in the past on OTC versions. (OTC=Over The Counter.) The only difference will be in what M$ has listed as the differences between them. They don't make seperate images for the different versions usually, so the code is already inside them. I have even used a MAC OS X Virtual PC XP PRO key on my PC's copy and visa versa, when I was told that it wouldn't work by the M$ support people. I may be lucky in that reguard, but I've never noticed any difference in the two copies doing it that way. Only thing is when I do reinstalls I may have to call in to get them to reregister the copy with the other system when doing the activation, but in your case you wont have to worry about activation since your key allows you to bypass that. Although, I would try it out first using the key that come with it, then if all goes well, then use the other key and make sure of no differences.

In fact in the past I've also used OEM keys in place of the key that come with it as well, M$ only checks that when it's installing to make sure it's a legal copy, then it checks it once more when you register it, outside of that I don't think they continually check it. Worst case scenerio is you have to call them and tell them that you're using it on only one system and that you recently upgraded the motherboard and/or processor and it's telling you that you've installed it too many times, then they reactivate it again...
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Post by Zacam » Wed Jan 25, 2006 1:27 am

That is good news to know. Fortunatly, I've got the next 2 days off and I can do that testing. Thank you.

Hopefully while I'm doing that testing I can also figure out either A: what is wrong with my current attempts at integration or B: it will disappear all on it's own.

Because if I manage to get a successful integration on a clean, non RVM'd source install of XP but I cannot get one on an RVM'd install, I'm going to have to wonder how and why.

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Found a solution... sort of

Post by abarax66 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:02 am

First off, thanks to everyone for the help.

Second, I noticed that too in the log, but this was a bit of an anomaly, since I'd integrated addons successfully in the past using the same exact path (my XPCD on my desktop). When I noticed that in my log, I moved it to my E: partition and tried again. Lo and behold, it worked fine. Just strange I can't use it on my C; drive any longer.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to RVM and Siginet's Integrator 1.1, and hope to test it out soon.

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Post by abarax66 » Wed Jan 25, 2006 9:34 am

BTW, here's my Integrator log:
[Settings]
Source=C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Ingram\Desktop\Windows XP Pro SP2
Destination=C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Ingram\Desktop\Windows XP Pro SP2
UpdatePack=C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Ingram\Desktop\Addons\RVMUpdatePack2.0.2a.cab
AddonPacks=C:\Documents and Settings\Gary Ingram\Desktop\Addons|Xable_OfficeUpdateEngine-v1.2_addon.cab|Addon_LClock_v4w_dgelwin.cab|Boooggy_WMAddon.cab|HACKED_WGA_1[1].4.389.0ADDON.CAB|Kel_CPLBonus_addon_v2.2.CAB|Kels_lite_addon_v1.6.cab
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Post by leelamb » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:18 pm

Eyepopping revelation to see that some others were having this problem. I thought it was just my weirdo computer, and I have just switched over to the new Asus I've been building for weeks. The programs are working splendidly now.

Here is what was happening: using RVM Integrator 1.05, RVM UpdPack 202a and some addons, I first noticed that the integration finished in record time, especially the actual integration phase after editing, which went by with blazing speed. At first I thought "splendid -- these guys have figured out a way to simplify and speed up the integration." But no, I said -- 20 seconds to complete an integration of all that stuff? Not likely. I read the logs and, sure enough, Integrator was trying to compile from my active Windows source (with the result, on my computer, that integrator.ini read "Access denied..." for file after file after file.) Even tried to use the Windows prefetch folder.

Adding to the weirdness is that Integrator read those active Windows files as compressed, which of course they were not. That is, integrator.ini would read "Access denied (to) C:\Windows\.... (filename).sy_" for file after file after file.

The Addon log and Update log, meanwhile, always reported "Operation succesful" for every addon and every KB file in the Update Pack.

I ran this repeatedly and with variations, including in Safe Mode, always with the same result.

I'm absolutely sure that I gave Integrator a clear path to a fresh source, as I've done many times before with every version of the integrator for nearly a year. I'm careful to put folders with short names in the root directory, and I never ask Integrator to reach into another partition -- just to be extra careful. My source is my own "old gold" hologram OEM XPCD, slipstreamed either with the SP2 CD I got from Microsoft last year, or with the downloaded IT version on MS download site. I use either, and run trials with both, but always fresh, and always with a clean path on a well-kept machine.

Really, many, many integrations I've done, more than I can remember, and I've made lots of mistakes, made many coasters, read everything and learned a lot. But I've never had this happen before.

I could dig up those logs and send them to you, but it would tell you only what the logs above tell you -- the Integrator was trying to access my active Windows folder (without success) despite pointer to the proper source I have given it many times before. Meanwhile, the Addon Log and Update log would report "Operation successful . . ."

Now, on my spanking new Asus/nVidia/AMD/SATA machine, with a new OEM XPCD installation disk, the exact same procedures are taking their sweet time and working splendidly.

Clearly, there is no intricsic problem with RVM app or the Addon cabs. I would encourage you to think that such problems are "localized" which is not to say that some modification won't help. I wish I could help you more, but I can't. This may or may not be a clue: I'm fairly aggressive in making modifications to my system and I have at times overdone it and overtaxed the old "very proprietary" (that is, weird) system I had until just a few days ago. In particular, before the problem stated above, I had run a couple of "automatic" reconfiuration utilities that I like, such as the new iteration of "Dial-a-fix", and I was having other problems with the computer that seemed to be partition/path/process related.

I think you guys are doing great work, and I wish I could help more. Knowing my computer and myself, I've solved problems in the past by reading everything in the forum and making UXPCDs over and over again until I got it right. That's why I haven't jumped on the forum with every problem that comes up. But this time I felt moved to weigh in and tell you as much as I could.
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Post by leelamb » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:22 pm

Ooops, in refering to "integrater.ini" I should have said the IntegratorLOG file. I'm writing from memory, don't have the stuff in from of me, it's on my old machine.
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Post by leelamb » Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:59 pm

I've just read Zacam's post, and have some more clues, namely that, come to think of it, I was trying to integrate a different XPCD. I had just bought a fresh OEM copy of XP PRO preparatory to firing up the self-assembled new computer I mentioned. Then, on the old machine, with the new XPCD, I was trying to make up my favorite "MSFN UXPCD Special" to be the first installation on the new PC.

Maybe this use of an XPCD "foreign" to that particular Windows machine triggered the mishap which, as Siginet says, "shouldn't have happened" even with a user-side error.

Add to this, only days before the incident, I had been required to do a telephone-reactivation of my old Windows version. I was getting messages that the version had "reached the limit" of usage and I needed to talk to Microsoft. For my part, I didn't know it was possible to "reach the limit" of installations of my OS on the same machine, but if it's possible, I'm sure I did it, because I've done many installations, beyond counting, since I've "acquired a taste and enthusiasm" for making these modified, enhanced, upgraded and integrated-six-ways-from-Sunday XPCDs.

So I got a new number from the MS representative, but I had to promise to never use it on any other PC. So maybe I was "on probation" or something, when this happened. Incidentally, I really do not take liberties, of the illegal kind, with my software, but it might look like I was trying to do that at the MS end of the deal. So maybe my machine was crippled when this incident happened.
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Post by DisabledTrucker » Sun Jan 29, 2006 11:12 pm

leelamb wrote:...snipped out unimportant stuff...
My source is my own "old gold" hologram OEM XPCD, slipstreamed either with the SP2 CD I got from Microsoft last year, or with the downloaded IT version on MS download site.

...again snip...

I've made lots of mistakes, made many coasters, read everything and learned a lot. But I've never had this happen before.

I could dig up those logs and send them to you, but it would tell you only what the logs above tell you -- the Integrator was trying to access my active Windows folder (without success) despite pointer to the proper source I have given it many times before. Meanwhile, the Addon Log and Update log would report "Operation successful . . ."

...again snip...

Clearly, there is no intricsic problem with RVM app or the Addon cabs. I would encourage you to think that such problems are "localized" which is not to say that some modification won't help. I wish I could help you more, but I can't.

This may or may not be a clue: I'm fairly aggressive in making modifications to my system and I have at times overdone it and overtaxed the old "very proprietary" (that is, weird) system I had until just a few days ago. In particular, before the problem stated above, I had run a couple of "automatic" reconfiuration utilities that I like, such as the new iteration of "Dial-a-fix", and I was having other problems with the computer that seemed to be partition/path/process related.
Note what is bolded, that's your problem, you modified XP with those "crapware" programs that only really screw up your system, which is why you're having the problem! Reinstall Windows from scratch if you must, then attempt to rebuild your disk again WITHOUT installing the crapware, just whatever updates that Windows spits at you, your virus scanner and your firewall software installed. You don't need anything else to build your UXPCD installed at this point, build it then install it as you normally would minus that crapware, if you need to really tweak your system, I highly recommend using TweakXP as well as following the directions found here. You'll be better off in the long run and learn something in the process.
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Post by Zacam » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:57 am

leelamb, Thank you for the information regarding the fact that you've also experienced this isssue as well as managing to over come it. I can certainly understand that "crapware" (as DT put's it) can cause randomly unexpected events to occur in the OS, ergo, it may be occasionally necessary to manufacture a new source for integration on a genuinely clean system.

However, even though my integration has not attempted to pull from a windows directory or prefetch, the current installation that I am running, only has the following addons: (and no post install "crapware")

dgelwin's:
LClock v3.cab
Xables:
Calc Plus v1.2
HashTab 1.8
Sysinternals 1.8
Unlocker 1.7.5
Kel's
CabTool v1.1
CDImageGUI CPL
Defrag v1 CPL
DLLRegShex v1
DirectX v1 CPL
ModifyPE
Updates CPL
UPXShell CPL
OpenAL v1
Original Hacks:
Syssetup
TCPIP
UXTheme
Mine:
Attribute Changer
TTFExt v3

SWI Addons:
Sun JRE 5.0u5
Opera v8.5

2 post install regkeys are made. One to apply "Cmd Here" on context menu, the other to enable Local Computer in the Security Zones Settings Tab. Automatic Updates are disabled as is System Restore and Remote Assistance. Kerio Personal Firewall is used, so the Security Center is also disabled.

I'm still not understanding how this setup can cause for integration failures. Also to note: No hardware is overclocked. ECS KT600-A MB, Semperon +2400, 2x512 Corsair XMS DDR400, ATI 9600XT, SB Audigy 2. The only changes from default BIOS settings are disabling Floppy, Serial, Com and Parallel ports, Disabled on-board SATA (no drives at the moment) and setting AGP Arpeture to 64.

And while I can certainly agree that intrinsicly, there is absolutely nothing wrong with either the Integrator or the Update pack (conceivably by extension the addon's as well), might there be something flawed with the operation of a system built using them and if so, how can we determine this?

Especially since this same hardware, with the same settings using a clean copy of XP (I didn't even go so far as to integrate SP2 just in case flaws in the system could corrupt it) will integrate perfectly fine. But attempted integrations with the above setup have, thus far, flawlessly reproduced the problem mentioned.

I'm more confused that I think I can ever recall being. So to this end, while suggestions are certainly welcome, I've been banging my head against this for 2 1/2 weeks now as schedules have permitted. So I'm going to take a bit of a break, walk away and reset my self and my perceptions and tackle this again from a fresh start later.

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Post by DisabledTrucker » Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:59 am

Not that this has anything to do with anything here, but upping your AGP Arpeture to 128 is highly reccommended by both nVidia and ATI for most video cards, I know when I run my last ATI 9200 AIW card, it made a big difference.

Though:
Especially since this same hardware, with the same settings using a clean copy of XP (I didn't even go so far as to integrate SP2 just in case flaws in the system could corrupt it) will integrate perfectly fine. But attempted integrations with the above setup have, thus far, flawlessly reproduced the problem mentioned.
is your problem, to use the RVMUpdates you must first slipstream in SP2. And some of those items you have mentioned may even require it, if memory serves the OAL one and the "Hacks" you have listed, if they are from the latest ones from this site, they do as well.... Also the DX cpl one you don't need because if you update the DX which is in SP2, which is highly recommended, then it will automatically install that itself. There are a couple of those other cpl's that have even give me a problem in the past, so for the most part I don't use many of them, mostly the ones for tweakui and upx and maybe one or two others. Another thing to consider would be to use either of the CMD Here addon's that Kel and I created, his uses the dll mine uses M$ Inf from RKTools...
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Post by Zacam » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:23 am

What I was reffering to was that I installed XP standard as a base to create a new Slipstreamed and RVM'd ISO since the integrator was not operating well under this system with an RVM'd SP2 install. I suppose I should have clarified that statement better.

And I find the reg add works best for me personally as a point of finer control. While the INF and DLL versions both operate flawlessly, they're additional information, additional files, to have to track that only serve towards _one_ purpose. The reg file can serve to make one change, or many changes, so I preffer (as a matter of personal prefference, and not as anything against either of the above mentioned methods) to use the .reg.

So, to clarify the statement above, I'm stating that in order for me to make a clean SP2 RVM'd installer, I revert back to the system running XP Gold to ensure that there is nothing potentially flawed (as far as the OS source is concerned). Next test will see me using an XP SP2 cd (after I get done doing a full comparision of mine vs M$'s to determine if either is better than the other), and then again another test on an SP2 RVM'd. If integrator manages to succeed on the first two but fail on the last, then I'll have to dig even deeper.

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Post by DisabledTrucker » Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:16 am

There should be no reason for it to fail on any of them, with the exception that some of those files your using requires that SP2 at least be installed and some may even require the updates as well.
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Post by Siginet » Mon Jan 30, 2006 1:29 pm

I am stumped as to why you are getting this error. :( This has got to be one of the weirdest things I have seen. All I can say is maybe try to change your paths. Getting rid of spaces maybe. It is difficult to help you guys when I can't reproduce the error. :(
Sorry. Try to find simularities in your systems and see if you can zone in on one of them to figure out if it is the cause of your issue.
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Post by RyanVM » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:17 pm

I've moved the offtopic posts out of this thread. Please keep threads on topic in the future.

abarax66, anything new to report?

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Post by Zacam » Mon Jan 30, 2006 7:42 pm

DisabledTrucker wrote:There should be no reason for it to fail on any of them, with the exception that some of those files your using requires that SP2 at least be installed and some may even require the updates as well.
Heh. Again, not so sure I'm making myself clear. I'm not trying to integrate to a source that is only XP (without SP2) but that the running OS that I'm using to make the integration ON is running XP Gold. And then, providing it is succesful, I'll make an integration on this system while it is running XP SP2. If that is successful, I'll then do an integration while the system is running either or both of the previously created integrations to see if integrator passes or exhibts the same behaviour.

Why? I'm already pretty positive that I can successfully make an integrated install CD on a running XP Gold and XP SP2. But attempts at making an integrated install while running on an OS that is itself an integrated install is the environment that is causing the Integrator application to fail.

And I'd like to know why, and I'm pretty sure some others would as well. As the hardware is not consistent across the machines we with the problems have, the only base zero I can think of is that we're trying to make new integrations on machines RUNNING integrated cd installs.

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Post by Siginet » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:21 pm

My computer is a recent integrated install... so that theory is out of the question. I am sur ryans and many others here are using integrated OSes as well. Unless the error is caused by an addon?
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Post by DisabledTrucker » Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:29 pm

Okay so basically what you're saying is that you're building your integrated installs on whichever version of the O/S you happen to be running on, but when you get to where your running the O/S with the integrated RVMUpdates then you have a problem building the integration on that version of the O/S. If I understand what you're saying...

If this is true then it would be strange that a basic install of XP Gold slipstreamed to SP2 then overwritten with RVMUpdates to cause the integrator not to integrate correctly or see the folder you're pointing to, I'm for chalking this one up to the WTH Gods myself... :?

I use the same thing, I slipstreamed my XP Gold to SP2 then integrated RVMUpdates on top of that. Of course I have to also add my SATA drivers on top of that but that shouldn't have any bearing on this issue, I don't have any problems with it seeing the folder I'm building my new disks in, I build at least two at a time and don't have a problem with it. What is the folder structure you're using? Do you use like:

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C:\XPSP2\
     VRMPFPP_EN\
     This would be the disk you're creating...
     SP2\
     This would be the extracted SP2.exe file folder...
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     This would be you're ripped XP Gold disk...
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Post by Zacam » Tue Jan 31, 2006 9:40 am

DisabledTrucker wrote:Okay so basically what you're saying is that you're building your integrated installs on whichever version of the O/S you happen to be running on, but when you get to where your running the O/S with the integrated RVMUpdates then you have a problem building the integration on that version of the O/S. If I understand what you're saying...
That would be the nail square on the head.
DisabledTrucker wrote:If this is true then it would be strange that a basic install of XP Gold slipstreamed to SP2 then overwritten with RVMUpdates to cause the integrator not to integrate correctly or see the folder you're pointing to, I'm for chalking this one up to the WTH Gods myself... :?
Prexactly my setiments as well. :cry: :x
DisabledTrucker wrote:I use the same thing, I slipstreamed my XP Gold to SP2 then integrated RVMUpdates on top of that. Of course I have to also add my SATA drivers on top of that but that shouldn't have any bearing on this issue, I don't have any problems with it seeing the folder I'm building my new disks in, I build at least two at a time and don't have a problem with it. What is the folder structure you're using? Do you use like:

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C:\XPSP2\
     VRMPFPP_EN\
     This would be the disk you're creating...
     SP2\
     This would be the extracted SP2.exe file folder...
     WXMPFPP_EN\
     This would be you're ripped XP Gold disk...
Since I'm not multi-booting or anything, this isn't an AIW CD/DVD. Single copy OS install. Dir structure is as follows:

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C:\XPSP2 <--Source (Where i386 resides)(either M$ copy or Slipstreamed)
C:\Patch   <- This is where Integrator.exe, Update.cab and all Addons are
C:\XPRVM <-- This is the Output folder _if_ I specify one, usual habit is to simple add it to the source folder. 
I've also tried substitutions of the same folders and a combination thereof on D. Any addons used are already mentioned above. In short, if one of those addons is managing to cause this problem though in being present, it's not going to be fun tracking down with one. I see many a tedious test phase coming up, especially since I'm doing Real Installs (not VMWare). Fortunately, I have 2 40gb hdd's that I can swap in and out to take /dev/hda's place so I still have something I can use in the meantime. :)
Siginet wrote:My computer is a recent integrated install... so that theory is out of the question.
Only in as far as your configuration is concerned. Are you also running an exact integration as I am, or installing from a cd made from the same ISO as I? If not, then it's not entirely out of the question, it's just not being caused by anything present in your system and is therefor un-reproducable on yours. A case of "A and B get along great so long as A absolutely _never_ follows B more than once in a line of 26 characters" sorta deal.

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Post by DisabledTrucker » Tue Jan 31, 2006 10:52 am

Try moving your folders from the %SystemDrive% to "%SystemDrive%\XPSP2\" and work from inside that folder and see if you still have problems, like in my example above. Also what are you using to slipstream XPSP2? Are you doing it manually or using nLite to create your XPSP2 disk?

If your using nLite, try doing it manually through the command prompt, using this:

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xpsp2.exe /integrate:C:\XPSP2\VRMPFPP_EN\
and see if that will help or not. That's one of the many reasons I don't use nLite anymore to create my XPSP2 disks because it's messed up a lot of my CD's attempting that route. You can also extract XPSP2.exe and run that command from the folder that Update.exe is in and substituting XPSP2.exe for Update.exe either way will work.

Once you've done that see if you can get a working copy of RVMupdates on it, then try each addon one at a time until you find out which one(s) is(are) causing the problem...
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Post by Zacam » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:22 am

I've tried stacking WIP folders inside a folder off the main. Didn't care for it any, but I could revert back to it for testing methods. I've just prefered direct off the root as it's shorter path structure and over all less complicted (for me atleast). I'll see what including an additional level to encapsulate it all into does for it.

Also, I've always, when integrating SP2 into XP Gold, done so manually. PIF, I've never used, loaded or installed nLite. While I can understand utilizing .Net to _make_ something, what little I've seen made by and for .Net hasn't been worth the trouble. (Granted, this is pretty much just nLite, ATI's CCC and a few other miscellanious apps.)

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Post by DisabledTrucker » Tue Jan 31, 2006 11:27 am

Okay, I was just trying to help you rule everything out was why I asked...
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Post by abarax66 » Thu Feb 02, 2006 11:17 am

Sorry it's taken so long to report back, but I've been running non-stop for the last week. Anyway, here's an update...

I took a glance at my Integrator logs and entries, and noted a HACKED WGA Addon had been added. I believed this may have been the issue since my copy of Windows is retail-purchased (I live at Office Depot, it seems :wink: ) and when I went to download and install Internet Explorer 7 Beta 2 a few days ago, it returned an unknown validation error. Apparently, Microsoft had updated its WGA code considerably over the last few weeks, and it couldn't recognize which validation process to recognize: my valid license or the hacked one. It directed me to contact Microsoft, which I did, and was informed that I was on the brink of violating the EULA for modifying the Windows install as such. They reactivated my licensing, and so I considered the matter resolved. I returned to retry the Integrator with only 2.0.2a, Kel's Lite Pack, and the Kel CPL Pack, and the results were...

Exactly the same.

I retried with just 2.0.2a, and the same results yet again. I assumed I needed to reextract my XP CD to my C: drive in case I had a corrupt file or two, but still the same error, no matter what. Out of desperation I tried nLite (which I'm not very fond of, because it disrupts the RunOnceEx process I use), and it worked fine. Of course I had to launch the RunOnceEx process manually and reboot after first logon to run it, but it laded everything just fine.

So at this point, I'm stumped.

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Post by DisabledTrucker » Thu Feb 02, 2006 1:27 pm

I take it you removed the hacked WGA addon and still had those problems then? Did you update all of the addon packs you used as well? Some of the packs Kel once had up there had a cracked WGA inside it, so if you didn't update to the latest version of those could be where your problem lies.
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