XPSP3_QFE_UpdatePack for Windows XP Post-SP3 20180109

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Post by kolp » Fri Jun 29, 2012 3:17 am

Sho_gun, huge thanks for the heads up!! my pack was from 1306, hadn't noticed it was updated for 1406. it works now :)

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Post by user_hidden » Fri Jun 29, 2012 7:44 am

kolp wrote:Sho_gun, huge thanks for the heads up!! my pack was from 1306, hadn't noticed it was updated for 1406. it works now :)
wasn't that my original question to you if you were using
the latest pack from the first post !!!!!

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Post by kolp » Fri Jun 29, 2012 2:56 pm

i had downloaded this month's so i assumed it was last one ;) silly, i know.

thanks again :)

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Post by user_hidden » Fri Jun 29, 2012 4:08 pm

@ kolp

never a problem at all.

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Post by adric » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:17 am

According to the log, Image Mastering API v2.0 (IMAPIv2.0) is included in the UpdatePack, but when I try to use the windows Defender offline tool to create an iso, I get an error that IMAPI is not installed. I downloaded WindowsXP-KB932716-v2-x86-ENU.exe and reinstalled it and no longer get the error.

I saw the following in the fix install log:

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13.156: Copied file:  C:\WINDOWS\Driver Cache\i386\cdrom.sys
13.172: Copied file:  C:\WINDOWS\system32\DllCache\imapi2fs.dll
13.203: Copied file:  C:\WINDOWS\system32\DllCache\imapi2.dll
13.219: Copied file:  C:\WINDOWS\system32\DllCache\cdrom.sys
I'm not sure if this is an updatepack problem or something that I did somewhere that required me to reinstall the fix. The tool is a small file and quick to download if anyone wants to see if they get this error too.

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Post by user_hidden » Tue Jul 03, 2012 7:34 am

@ adric

i'll check on it.

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Post by user_hidden » Tue Jul 03, 2012 9:36 am

adric wrote:According to the log, Image Mastering API v2.0 (IMAPIv2.0) is included in the UpdatePack
Al
I found the issue.

Please download the file below and run the inf.
let me kknow if it fixes the issue.
it should, so i'll update the main pack later on, or possibly wait a week for patch tuesday.

File: Imapi2_fix.inf.7z
CRC-32: bbc7fb38
MD4: 011241cc167573611dcca56519221f00
MD5: 2b2f817ece5544cbd187cce31f831a13
SHA-1: a61f311771511dbee7b5cffdd9f18eac80251148

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Post by adric » Tue Jul 03, 2012 3:34 pm

I'll have to do a restore to test the .inf since I already reinstalled the fix on my live system and no longer have this issue. I'll let you know.

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Post by user_hidden » Tue Jul 03, 2012 5:38 pm

adric wrote:I'll have to do a restore to test the .inf since I already reinstalled the fix on my live system and no longer have this issue. I'll let you know.

Al
btw if you reinstalled 932716-v2 you would have to reinstall 952011 as well. the latter is on a live system......or use the inf on a live system that has pre 20120614 to fix the issue.

latest beta update pack has the fix builtin and confirmed working imapi2.
it'l be released next week for patch tuesday.

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Post by adric » Wed Jul 04, 2012 4:14 am

I'm not sure I understand what you mean by pre 20140614. I have the latest updatepack on my live system. Does installing 932716-v2 break the 952011 fix in the pack?

I did not notice any issues not installing 952011, but I only tested using the mssstool32.exe to download the WDO_Media32.iso (Windows Offline Defender). 932716-v2 fixwd that issue for me.

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 04, 2012 7:44 am

adric wrote:I'm not sure I understand what you mean by pre 20140614. I have the latest updatepack on my live system. Does installing 932716-v2 break the 952011 fix in the pack?

I did not notice any issues not installing 952011, but I only tested using the mssstool32.exe to download the WDO_Media32.iso (Windows Offline Defender). 932716-v2 fixwd that issue for me.

Al

932716-v2 has 3 files from 5/2/2008
952011 replaced 2 of them for newer 10/30/2008.
by reinstalling 932716-v2 you break 952011.

if you have a running system and reinstalled 932716-v2 you have to reinstall 952011 as well. if you have not reinstalled anything and are running 20120614 and prior, the INF is all you need to fix the issue.

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Post by tomasz86 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:52 am

@user_hidden
Have you tested it?

M$ hotfix installer usually installs only newer files (by version) so even if you install an older update it shouldn't replace any newer files...

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Post by vix » Wed Jul 04, 2012 2:12 pm

There is an issue with the included Remote Desktop update; saving credentials is not possible. After countless searches, I found that this is fixed by deleting the entry

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HKLM,"SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CredentialsDelegation\AllowDefaultCredentials"
Please consider adding this to your pack to help people avoid Remote Desktop headaches.

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Post by adric » Wed Jul 04, 2012 5:58 pm

I see PLUGIN.OC_ in Service Pack 3, but when I integrate with the UpdatePack, it is no longer in the i386 directory. When you try and create a BartPE iso using the integrated files, I get an error indicating that the PLUGIN.OC_ file is missing. Is there a reason for its removal during the UpdatePack integration?

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:35 pm

adric wrote:I see PLUGIN.OC_ in Service Pack 3, but when I integrate with the UpdatePack, it is no longer in the i386 directory. When you try and create a BartPE iso using the integrated files, I get an error indicating that the PLUGIN.OC_ file is missing. Is there a reason for its removal during the UpdatePack integration?

Al
file was considered obsolete.
if you want it to stay in the integration look into the entries.ini file.
in the section [obsolete_files] comment out plugin.ocx.

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:36 pm

vix wrote:There is an issue with the included Remote Desktop update; saving credentials is not possible. After countless searches, I found that this is fixed by deleting the entry

Please consider adding this to your pack to help people avoid Remote Desktop headaches.
so you are saying that reg entry is screwing up saving credentials with RDC ?

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Post by ricktendo64 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 6:59 pm

Some more info on that reg setting is available on KB951608

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 04, 2012 9:44 pm

ricktendo64 wrote:Some more info on that reg setting is available on KB951608
this is what is in the updatepack:

For example, assume that you want to turn on the Single Sign-On experience when you use Terminal Services to connect to a Windows Vista-based computer or to a Windows Server 2008-based computer from a Windows XP SP3-based computer. In this case, you would add the following registry entries on the Windows XP SP3-based computer:

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CredentialsDelegation

REG_DWORD: AllowDefaultCredentials
Value data: 00000001

REG_DWORD: ConcatenateDefaults_AllowDefault
Value data: 00000001

HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Policies\Microsoft\Windows\CredentialsDelegation\AllowDefaultCredentials

"1"="TERMSRV/*"

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Post by ricktendo64 » Wed Jul 04, 2012 10:57 pm

I had it in mine also but I commented it out because of sign in problems

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Post by vix » Thu Jul 05, 2012 2:12 am

user_hidden wrote:
vix wrote:There is an issue with the included Remote Desktop update; saving credentials is not possible. After countless searches, I found that this is fixed by deleting the entry

Please consider adding this to your pack to help people avoid Remote Desktop headaches.
so you are saying that reg entry is screwing up saving credentials with RDC ?
Yes. That was the reason I had switched to Xable's pack a couple years ago. The Microsoft article didn't help. Eventually I found the answer from a tech guy at the HP forums.

I just tested again. With that entry active (the issue is really the "1"="TERMSRV/*" string), you can't save credentials. Delete it and the option to save credentials is back.

Perhaps you should consider completely removing this particular update from your pack. As I said the Microsoft article didn't help but it was quite enlightening regarding recent non-critical updates to Windows XP:

"However, the CredSSP Group Policy settings are not available as a Group Policy object (GPO) in Windows XP SP3."

Which means that this update causes more problems than it solves to XP users without giving them the means to configure.

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Jul 05, 2012 7:30 am

vix wrote:I just tested again. With that entry active (the issue is really the "1"="TERMSRV/*" string), you can't save credentials. Delete it and the option to save credentials is back.

Perhaps you should consider completely removing this particular update from your pack. As I said the Microsoft article didn't help but it was quite enlightening regarding recent non-critical updates to Windows XP:
will fix it for upcomming patch tuesday.

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:22 pm

20120710

updated Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool v4.10
updated Microsoft Windows Update Web Control 7.6.7600.257
updated Microsoft Update Web Control 7.6.7600.257
updated Adobe Flash Player 11.3.300.265 ActiveX Control
fixed Windows Feature Pack for Storage [Imapi2]
fixed Credentials Saving in Remote Desktop Connection
added KB2655992
added KB2691442
added KB2698365 replaced KB2419632
added KB2718523 replaced KB2709162
added KB2719985 replaced KB973687 & KB2079403
added KB2721691 replaced KB973685
added KB2728973 Windows Revoked Roots Update

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Post by keloo05 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:31 pm

user_hidden wrote:20120710

updated Microsoft Malicious Software Removal Tool v4.10
updated Microsoft Windows Update Web Control 7.6.7600.257
updated Microsoft Update Web Control 7.6.7600.257
updated Adobe Flash Player 11.3.300.265 ActiveX Control
fixed Windows Feature Pack for Storage [Imapi2]
fixed Credentials Saving in Remote Desktop Connection
added KB2655992
added KB2691442
added KB2698365 replaced KB2419632
added KB2718523 replaced KB2709162
added KB2719985 replaced KB973687 & KB2079403
added KB2721691 replaced KB973685
added KB2728973 Windows Revoked Roots Update
Wow ! So many changes to make a perfect update pack. Thank you !

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 11, 2012 1:45 pm

keloo05 wrote:Wow ! So many changes to make a perfect update pack. Thank you !

mulţumesc :wink:

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Post by ltsnow » Wed Jul 11, 2012 2:17 pm

Thank you so much user_hidden for all your hard work on this update pack. I come here all the time to get updates, but have never taken the time to thank you. This is the very best pack IMHO.

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Jul 11, 2012 3:40 pm

Thanks for the update again but i have a little question are this extra windows xp updates also already included?
Windows XP Smart Card Driver
Windows XP Image Mastering API Update for Blu-Ray Media
Windows XP exFAT file system driver

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:43 pm

Outbreaker wrote:Thanks for the update again but i have a little question are this extra windows xp updates also already included?
Windows XP Smart Card Driver
Windows XP Image Mastering API Update for Blu-Ray Media
Windows XP exFAT file system driver

yup, long time ago

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Post by ricktendo64 » Wed Jul 11, 2012 4:59 pm

u_h did you see my post? http://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/7118 ... etlastpost

I hope you kept KB2419632.cat

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Post by Outbreaker » Wed Jul 11, 2012 6:53 pm

user_hidden wrote: yup, long time ago
Excellent and my dummy always included it separately. :rolleyes:

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Post by user_hidden » Wed Jul 11, 2012 7:30 pm

ricktendo64 wrote:u_h did you see my post?

yup thanks Rick

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Post by keloo05 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 4:37 pm

user_hidden wrote:
ricktendo64 wrote:u_h did you see my post?

yup thanks Rick
Is it safe now, or does it need an update?

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Post by 5eraph » Thu Jul 12, 2012 5:34 pm

It should be safe, keloo05. The CAT and registry entries for KB2419632 are present in the current pack.

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Jul 12, 2012 7:03 pm

keloo05 wrote:Is it safe now, or does it need an update?
check first post always for latest file and checksum information

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Post by keloo05 » Thu Jul 12, 2012 8:52 pm

I see now that was silently updated. Thanks.

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Jul 19, 2012 2:01 pm

next UpdatePack for August will have the below included,
so do not use any addons of them during your integration.

Microsoft DirectX 9.0c Runtimes
Microsoft Silverlight 5.1.10411.0
Microsoft Visual Basic 1,2,3,4 Runtimes

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Post by tomasz86 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 3:09 pm

@user_hidden

Do you really think that Silverlight is absolutely necessary? :|

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Post by user_hidden » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:19 pm

tomasz86 wrote:@user_hidden

Do you really think that Silverlight is absolutely necessary? :|
let's see what other users say and then i will decide, that would be
a viable solution.

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Post by bphlpt » Thu Jul 19, 2012 4:41 pm

Absolutely necessary? No, of course not. But for a complete MS solution, and since it is offered through MU if it is not installed, as long as MS is continuing to provide updates to it I would say yes, include it. It doesn't take up much room and it can always be removed if someone doesn't want it.

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Post by tomasz86 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 5:24 pm

.NET Framework is also offered by WU (as an optional component) but it's not included in the pack, is it? ;)

I think that .NET Framework is way more useful than Silverlight for an average user.

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Post by bphlpt » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:25 pm

Can't argue that. Then the question becomes what are the reasons for certain MS items being included and some not. Is it the rate at which MS updates are usually posted? I guess you could argue you should either add all of them or make them optional? Just playing devil's advocate since I've mostly moved to Win7. Probably should get more comments from those that use User_hidden's pack more often than I do.

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Post by tomasz86 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 7:41 pm

Well, it's only my opinion but I think that people wanting to have everything integrated will just choose the OnePiece's Update Pack.

The advantage of using user_hidden's pack is the ability to prepare a minimal installation of WinXP without all the optional components.

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Post by bphlpt » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:21 pm

I do agree with that basic premise. But I thought that the purpose of both OnePiece's and user_hidden's packs was to end up with an install such that if you go to WU/MU that you find things completely up to date. I'm not sure how u_h categorizes optional items. And you're right about it starting to blur the distinction between the two packs. It's definitely not for me to decide, especially not with my tendency to install everything. ;)

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Post by keloo05 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:32 pm

user_hidden wrote:next UpdatePack for August will have the below included,
so do not use any addons of them during your integration.

Microsoft DirectX 9.0c Runtimes
Microsoft Silverlight 5.1.10411.0
Microsoft Visual Basic 1,2,3,4 Runtimes
I would also like to express my opinion:

1. An AIO with everything for MS (true integration) would be great because the number of the addons we use will reduce
2. On the other hand, your update pack (as it is now) allows users having a choice of what addons to integrate
3. I think we should not argue about this, and let user_hidden decide by himself.

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Post by bphlpt » Thu Jul 19, 2012 9:41 pm

keloo05 wrote:3. I think we should not argue about this, and let user_hidden decide by himself.
LOL Absolutely! Don't worry, tomasz86 and I are good friends. We are not arguing at all, we are just responding to user_hidden's request:
user_hidden wrote:let's see what other users say and then i will decide, that would be a viable solution.
Thank you very much for adding your opinion. I hope others will also voice their opinion as well. As ELiTE has said, this is a discussion forum after all.

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Post by ricktendo64 » Thu Jul 19, 2012 10:57 pm

You could also do a bonus pack with the rest of the stuff

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Post by shiner » Fri Jul 20, 2012 1:14 am

I am using XP only and most likely will be using it for at least 3 more years.
user_hidden's pack is my choice.

1. DirectX, yes include it.
2. VB runtimes, yes include them.
3. Silverlight--well, I have never installed it or even downloaded it.

quote from wikepedia
As of 26 August 2011, 0.3% sites are using Silverlight,[16] whereas site usage of Adobe Flash is around 27%.[17] Usage of Java on sites during the same time period is around 4%.[18]
If Silverlight were on sites at about the same level as Java, I would say--no problem add it, but at its reported level I don't think its really needed.

If user_hidden does add it, maybe make it real easy to "comment out" for people who don't want it. Either way, I will stick with this pack.
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Post by phox » Fri Jul 20, 2012 2:10 am

[quote="user_hidden"]next UpdatePack for August will have the below included,
so do not use any addons of them during your integration.

Microsoft DirectX 9.0c Runtimes
Microsoft Silverlight 5.1.10411.0
Microsoft Visual Basic 1,2,3,4 Runtimes[/quote]

I fully agree with 1. and 3. but not for the Silverlight!

As you plan to enrich your UP, please have a mercy and finally include IE8, WMP11 and NetAIO.
I am using your UP every month and I am tired of the burden to fish for the up to date AddOn's.

Thank you very much in advance!

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Post by vmanda » Fri Jul 20, 2012 4:05 am

user_hidden wrote:next UpdatePack for August will have the below included,
so do not use any addons of them during your integration.

Microsoft DirectX 9.0c Runtimes
Microsoft Silverlight 5.1.10411.0
Microsoft Visual Basic 1,2,3,4 Runtimes
For size reasons, best way to include DirectX 9.0c is as svcpack addon,
but 100% agree that is needed.

Microsoft Silverlight can be installed using his installer. Also are frequently
updated. So it can be like a pain in a...

Agree 100% with direct integration of Visual Basic 1,2,3,4 Runtimes.

Maybe old C runtimes atl/mfc/msvc/70/71 and also Capicom.dll needs too.

Why do not add Internet Explorer 8 too? And maybe Media Player 11.

This is not like nono/onepiece pack because IE8 and MP11 are
things that update features allready included into windows XP.

Also IE8/MP11 updates are allways released when IE6/MP9 updates
are released as high security updates.

Also will not grow-up too much xp install CD size, because will be
replaced some files that allready exists.

Another point, everytime when need to create a new pack, finding one
updated pack for IE8 give us headaches since yumeyao stoped updating it.

Almost everybody of us integrate IE8/MP11 by using RVMI/nLite,
maybe not for reason to use it, but just for security reasons.

dotNet is not included by default into standard xp install CD,
not everybody use it.

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Post by 5eraph » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:17 am

I like having options. DX9c and VB Runtimes I can live with. I can remove Silverlight on my own if absolutely necessary. Though not originally suggested, please don't add WMP11; I still prefer WMP10 from time to time and downgrading would be problematic.

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Post by tomasz86 » Fri Jul 20, 2012 5:36 am

@vmanda

Not everyone uses IE8/WMP11 either. There is one big advantage of IE6 and WMP9 - they are lighter, therefore take less space in the Windows source. In case of IE6 the Explorer (explorer.exe) is actually faster than when using IE8 so you can keep IE6 system files and use other non-M$ browser to browse the Web. It does matter on an old computer.

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