Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by travma » Tue Nov 03, 2020 1:32 am

harkaz wrote:
Sun Nov 01, 2020 7:10 pm
"update pack 20170628": 5eraph's Post-SP3 EOS update pack released on 28/06/2017. Not sure about what was meant by removing updates, but the KB4018466 was later mentioned as superseded.
To have an idea about the 20170628 meaning I'm tracking one of the rest hotfix there and finally end up with the KB4039384 (Unicode Script Processor), but that KB isn't there in 5erPOSUp.inf
Thanks for KB4018466 indication, I wasn't see it earlier.

I agree with the rest off topic post but the early development of a human seems to hit the same bad attitudes again and again over the centuries. I suppose that today parents/society has to be better from the previous one and the one's before that, but that's not the case. It's like that only the most corrupted create the current/given society every time, like it is some kind of filter in place with the purpose to erase morality, compassion, dignity and justice and other higher etheric values from the mortal level while these values create wealth and good life in the first place.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Thu Dec 24, 2020 9:14 am

Important Offtopic:

WHO (the organization that declared 2019-nCoV was not responsible for human-to-human transmission in the early days of the pandemic and advised against an urgent suspension of international travel, even after this statement turned out to be completely false) revised the definition of herd immunity: https://www.zerohedge.com/political/who ... ts-website

This development suggests that indepedent scientific thinking will soon be forbidden worldwide, since scientific definitions are allowed to change after political pressure, with a complete replacement and disapperance of the previous definition.

People worldwide should resist, with any means available to them, against the aristocracy that viciously attacks human societies and civilization. The Great Reset may become a Great Rollback to the Middle Ages.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
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Retinal changes in schizophrenia (2019): https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniab ... 06/5598443
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by bphlpt » Thu Dec 24, 2020 5:05 pm

Offtopic question:

Thanks for sharing the link and your thoughts about it. I definitely agree that the human race can continue without being forced to rely solely on Pharma for it's salvation, and to be taught otherwise is wrong, and probably at least partially politically motivated. However, I also believe that Pharma can be beneficial, and to say that the human race is better off by ignoring all vaccines is also wrong. Yes, that approach has the danger of leading to over-population and the resulting problems that brings to the species, but I can't agree that it is better to just let disease "thin the herd," even if I do agree that is one solution to the problem. I guess I agree with WHO's original position that essentially stated, as I understand it, that herd immunity is achieved through the combination of vaccines and survival from previous infection. I think that means that yes, herd immunity can be achieved without vaccines, but then with a resulting higher loss of life. Correct? Would it be "better" to let smallpox and other deadly diseases keep the population in check? Some people believe that it would.

So, I'm in a quandary. I'm in favor of everyone having the right to their own opinions and beliefs, as long as they don't interfere with the rights of others. On the one hand, I respect those who don't want to have restrictions placed on them, vaccinations, travel, masks, etc, but on the other hand, I don't want those folks anywhere around me and my family, and I don't think I should then have to pay for their care, though taxes, etc, when they get sick. What to do?

What is your opinion about vaccines, for COVID and any other disease? Are they in general a good thing? Will you get vaccinated for COVID?

Respectfully, Cheers and Regards

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Thu Dec 24, 2020 7:49 pm

@bphlpt

I also believe that relying on Pharma can be beneficial in a democratic system - I prescribe drugs daily. Vaccines are also very important, and played an important role in containing diseases like measles. This, of course, does not change for a bit the fact that herd immunity may be achieved by natural means, even if it is brutal. Any attempt to edit scientific facts based on political opinion, without clarifying that it is policy and not science, is very dangerous. The academic and technological elites may be able to rewrite the scientific books, based not on experimentiation, observation, and mathematic inference, but based on their wishes, visions and interests. This is fascism beyond aristocracy, similar to the religious position of doctors in the ancient tribes.

In the case of COVID-19 vaccination we can see a concerted effort to silence any attempt to independently study the effects of the newly discovered vaccines on the population, which could risk the success of the vaccination program. Vaccines are reserved from local governments, and independent, non-governmental research groups are not permitted to verify the manufacturer's claims on safety and efficacy, prior to large scale deployment. FDA and EMA issued Emergency Use Authorization (EUA) under extreme political pressure while a significant minority (~20%) of the FDA commitee was against issuing the EUA. At the same time, complete legal immunity - civil and criminal - is granted to the vaccine manufacturers.

Both for scientific (inadequate studying of long-term effects, prevention of human-to-human transmission, and lack of good faith to the scientific results presented by manufacturers that are not legally liable) plus political reasons (the democratic values of the West are threatened) I do NOT intend to be vaccinated until democracy has been secured. I will continue using personal protective equpment to prevent human-to-human transmission and continue providing healthcare services, as I have been doing since the onset of the pandemic.

With regard to your last question, I think that excluding potential public health threats from society requires absolute trust to the scientific establishment recommendations. Absolute trust corrupts absolutely. We know the end result of concentration camps for health and eugenics policies in Nazi Germany.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
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Retinal changes in schizophrenia (2019): https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniab ... 06/5598443
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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by bphlpt » Thu Dec 24, 2020 8:54 pm

Today's situation is definitely different than others that have occurred over the centuries. I'm not aware of any other time when there were means for such rapid communication of information and rapid spread of disease due to both travel and population density. You have the rapid spread of disease and the even more rapid spread of information, and conjecture and misinformation, about it. Then you add the extreme political pressure to do something, anything, about the problem, and the threat that if you don't do something that you will be judged that you are contributing to the problem rather than to its solution. This judgement occurs by factions within any particular country, and between countries. That attitude is made more of a problem because of societal issues. It's kind of like education. Back a few decades ago, it was more common for parents, and students themselves, to take a more active role in their education, and take responsibility for the student's success or failure. Now, it seems it's more likely that both the students and their parents try to put all of the blame on the teachers and the school for any failures that occur. It's always someone else's fault. Then on top of that, add in the situation with media today. Often it seems that newscasters are more concerned about being the story rather than reporting it. Add in the vast proliferation of folks trying to either make a living or just get their 15 minutes of fame by being on TV, radio, print, blogging, etc. and here we are. It's good that we're not just being force fed one "truth," but with the vast amount of noise out there, you can always find whatever "truth" you want to believe. "Don't confuse me with facts! President, (or pastor, or teacher, or second cousin, or 'Joe Blow' on the internet) said ______, so that must be the truth!"

As a result of all of that, it is definitely true that the COVID vaccine was forced out faster than any vaccine ever has before. Yes, global politics forced that to happen. But don't put ALL of the blame on the politicians of any particular country. The "public" [including the media] wouldn't let there be any other result. Of course each country wanted to have the first vaccine released, for bragging rights, financial gain, political advantage, and career advantage for individuals involved no matter how peripherally, including the politicians. Also, of course, that same public and media will vilify everyone involved if those vaccines end up having any problems, without either the public or media taking any responsibility for the situation. "It's not our fault, it's 'THEM'!"

We have lost all patience as a species, we can't wait, we want it all NOW. At least that seems true for the more "advanced" sections of society. The third world is still willing to wait, but their sometimes wiser approach is not the one that is heard through the media.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Dibya » Sat Dec 26, 2020 9:46 am

To me this covid vaccine is total non sense , When even oral Typhoid Vaccine took India 27yrs to verify its safety and long time side effect , Here they are now making covid vaccine within 9 months. Anyone with common sense will stay away from it.
Most people here died in Corporate Hospitals , The recovery rate in Corporate Hospital is 13.2% where as in Public hospital is 97.1% (More people die due to air population). These figures are shocking to me. Public Hospital are using high flow oxygen , Azithromycin, Paracetamol and HCQ but private hospital are using fancy pants like Remdesivir and strong steroid. More people died due to these idiots in Corporate hospital.
I belief healthcare shall not be under corporate entities.
This whole pandemic is very shady. It killed something called democracy as free will died long ago, You cannot go out due to this draconian lock down. I wont be shocked if all evil politicians planned it.
How Hill Gutes knew in 2017 that their will be a huge pandemic in few years unless it is planned? Why FAntony Fauschy said we are not ready for next pandemic again in 2017? Why these two idiots are friends?
@harkaz Science died long ago as it doesn't favor corporate. EV was a thing in 1990 but all oil companies shut it down. Media is a control and all that it feeds are lies.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by George King » Sat Jan 16, 2021 12:34 am

Hi @harkaz,

I'm going to re-create FINAL OnePiece update pack for all languages, to be like SP4 with all updates. I downloaded all from your repository and I was hope I can find .cat files for each used update.

My goal is build newest AIO INTL Packs, OnePiece last update is from 22-07-2017

Code: Select all

https://www.wincert.net/forum/topic/12210-onepiece-xp-post-sp3-aio-international-update-packs-final/
I would like to compare his pack with your latest SP4, to find differences / missing updates.
I already downloaded all updates from your Post SP4 Rollup in all languages.
I have also downloaded complete files to build indentical UpdatePack v1.0.9 from his last update.

Can you help me with this findings please? I would like to build it as soon as possible as I build tool to convert XP into modern installer - XP2ESD, that can help everyone create XP integrated media to make FINAL AIO XP distribution in one single install.wim / install.esd


EDIT: I made latest OnePiece packs for all languages, you can find them on Wincert

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Mon Jan 18, 2021 2:46 pm

@Harkaz ... do you have access updates to XP that are not avaible to the public, private pay peeps?!?! Would love to see if I could get them, make another GH0stPak ... GH0stPak 2.0! From June 2019 forward.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Sun Feb 07, 2021 12:48 pm

@GH0st Unfortuantely, I don't have access to any such updates.

@George King The XP2ESD project seems very interesting, I'll take a look.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
Non-IT stuff:
Retinal changes in schizophrenia (2019): https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniab ... 06/5598443
Πᾶσά τε ἐπιστήμη χωριζομένη δικαιοσύνης καὶ τῆς ἄλλης ἀρετῆς πανουργία, οὐ σοφία φαίνεται. (Plato)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by George King » Sun Feb 07, 2021 1:08 pm

I found list of all needed Embedded updates here

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kb2926765- kb2993254-
kb2998579- kb2991963- kb3020393- kb3021674- kb3004361- kb3033889-
kb3109560- kb3121918-
kb31214708- kb318390- kb3126587-kb31903319331933303903 - kb4014794-
kb4025497- kb4025409- kb4034775- kb4025398- kb4039384-
kb4047211- kb4056941- kb401969276- kb4089404- kb4089445- kb403644-
kb4091756- kb4052303- kb4130957- kb4101477- kb4056564-V2- kb4089453-V2-
kb4291391- kb4339291- kb4457163- kb4458000- kb4458001- kb4458318-
kb4463103- kb4462935- kb4462987- kb4463573- kb4467689- kb4459091-
kb4470118- kb4467770- kb4486463- kb4486465- kb4486468- kb4486536-
kb4486538- kb4489493- kb4489973- kb4489977- kb4490228- kb4490501-
kb4493341- kb4487990- kb4491443- kb4493563- kb4493790- kb4493793-
kb4493794- kb4493795- kb4493796- kb4493797- kb4493927- kb4494059-
kb4494528- kb4495022- IE8-KB4493435- kb4500331
And also one secret update KB4501226 released 06-2019

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http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/uprl/2019/06/windowsxp-kb4501226-x86-embedded-enu_708fe12ecfbbb070821a87fd538af3b6b6fd3084.exe
I can rebuild all packs. I also got latest flashplayer. Now I need to have a look on .NET updates from OnePiece packs to make it absolutly FINAL.

Btw, KB4501226 means Microsoft released more updates for Windows XP based systems, maybe someone can grab it from Windows Update servers, but I don't have idea how to scan WU for all possible files..

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Mon Feb 08, 2021 3:07 pm

@George_King
The layout of the links is:

download. windowsupdate.com/d/msdownload/update/software/uprl/yyyy/mm/windowsxp-kbxx-x86-embedded-enu_hash.exe

First try searching Google (the best crawler available for public Internet) for "msdownload/update/software/uprl/yyyy/mm/windowsxp" replacing yyyy and mm sequentially and replacing 'uprl' with 'secu' for security updates.

If you find nothing, then you need to hack the server to bypass the 403 forbidden message and list contents of:

http://download.windowsupdate.com/d/msd ... e/software

That would not be legal though.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
Non-IT stuff:
Retinal changes in schizophrenia (2019): https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniab ... 06/5598443
Πᾶσά τε ἐπιστήμη χωριζομένη δικαιοσύνης καὶ τῆς ἄλλης ἀρετῆς πανουργία, οὐ σοφία φαίνεται. (Plato)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by George King » Mon Feb 08, 2021 5:40 pm

@harkaz

Another idea is write small link generator that will try all possible combinations to get hash - yes it's insane number, but can be doable and maybe better instead of hacking Windows Update. I asked one guy, will see if he can do it. I'm not able to write app like this.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by George King » Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:20 am

@harkaz

I tried integrating USP4 into Windows XP Starter SP2 OEM ISO. Now it doesn't accept any serial key during install. Same problem is with SP3 integration.

1) I tried original SP2 setup OEM media with product key MD6HB-6Y8XQ-xxxxx-xxxxx-xxxxx it works
2) Integrated USP4 or SP3 refuse product key during setup with this message "The product ID you entered is not valid"

Do you have any idea how to fix it?

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Kurt_Aust » Fri Mar 19, 2021 2:14 am

Did you do the integration on a computer running NT 5.x ? (Win 2000, XP, XP x64, Server 2003, Server 2003 x64)

Key entry will no loner work if you do it under NT 6.x or later (Vista or later)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by vioplujjnsjzfg » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:43 am

harkaz wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:54 am
--- Windows XP Unofficial SP4 End of Support Update Rollup ---
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tf1Zp ... M_6hNko8as

SHA-1: e1eda98d5352b3ce50cf60355895477f84c81ddc

2019 Christmas Special!
An update rollup to update a SP4 v3.1b system with all hotfixes included in the May 2019 update pack (SP4 End-of-Support Update PACK).
A processor with SSE2 support is required.


NOTE: To update .NET Frameworks versions 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 with the latest patches, please reinstall the respective components from the Control Panel.
If you are using a slipstreamed install of SP4 (i.e. you have NOT used the SP4 installer in the past), you need to integrate the SP4 End-of-Support Update PACK to SP4-slipstreamed media, before attempting to reinstall .NET Frameworks.

Recommended install path, if starting from SP1/SP2/SP3 base (if starting from SP0, upgrade to SP1 or SP2 first):
1. Install WindowsXP-USP4-v3.1b-NODOTNET-x86-ENU.exe and reboot.
2. Install May 2019 update rollup and reboot.
3. Install all required .NET Frameworks from Control Panel and reboot.
4. Wait for post-install tasks to complete


Is this final "support update" cumulative, containing everything from SP4, and then some? Or is it only the "and then some", requiring separate installation of SP4? If it is separate, please consider merging them into a single final cumulative SP4 version, so that anybody who wants all the windows updates MS ever released in the history of Windows XP, will be able to get them in a single installer. I've got Windows XP on an older computer and I want to just make absolutely certain that it's got the maximum possible protection from things like security updates and critical updates, without having to install multiple updates.

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Post by Kurt_Aust » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:52 am

"And then some", so separate install of SP4 first.

While it would be nice to have it all in one installer, it doesn't look like Harkaz will have the time to combine them anytime soon.

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by vioplujjnsjzfg » Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:59 am

Kurt_Aust wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:52 am
"And then some", so separate install of SP4 first.

While it would be nice to have it all in one installer, it doesn't look like Harkaz will have the time to combine them anytime soon.
I assumed that simply meant he won't add anything new to his overall project. However he really should combine the 2 parts of his overall project (SP4 and the post-SP4 update). That would make it a fitting end to the project. As it is now, he's left his project unfinished.

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Post by GH0st » Sun Apr 04, 2021 2:53 am

How rude ... Its a quick ... easy process to combine the two before you make your ISO, it requires you to DOUBLE CLICK it one time, boom, all files updated!

That means, once you are done, your ISO will have it all, so your fresh install is FULL and complete

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Sat Jul 10, 2021 3:42 pm

vioplujjnsjzfg wrote:
Mon Mar 29, 2021 2:43 am
harkaz wrote:
Wed Dec 25, 2019 9:54 am
--- Windows XP Unofficial SP4 End of Support Update Rollup ---
https://drive.google.com/open?id=1tf1Zp ... M_6hNko8as

SHA-1: e1eda98d5352b3ce50cf60355895477f84c81ddc

2019 Christmas Special!
An update rollup to update a SP4 v3.1b system with all hotfixes included in the May 2019 update pack (SP4 End-of-Support Update PACK).
A processor with SSE2 support is required.


NOTE: To update .NET Frameworks versions 2.0, 3.0, 3.5 and 4.0 with the latest patches, please reinstall the respective components from the Control Panel.
If you are using a slipstreamed install of SP4 (i.e. you have NOT used the SP4 installer in the past), you need to integrate the SP4 End-of-Support Update PACK to SP4-slipstreamed media, before attempting to reinstall .NET Frameworks.

Recommended install path, if starting from SP1/SP2/SP3 base (if starting from SP0, upgrade to SP1 or SP2 first):
1. Install WindowsXP-USP4-v3.1b-NODOTNET-x86-ENU.exe and reboot.
2. Install May 2019 update rollup and reboot.
3. Install all required .NET Frameworks from Control Panel and reboot.
4. Wait for post-install tasks to complete


Is this final "support update" cumulative, containing everything from SP4, and then some? Or is it only the "and then some", requiring separate installation of SP4? If it is separate, please consider merging them into a single final cumulative SP4 version, so that anybody who wants all the windows updates MS ever released in the history of Windows XP, will be able to get them in a single installer. I've got Windows XP on an older computer and I want to just make absolutely certain that it's got the maximum possible protection from things like security updates and critical updates, without having to install multiple updates.
The reason for not creating a 'final' SP4 is that the final system binaries are not compatible with all processors that Windows XP originally supported. A service pack, by definition, has the same minimum system requirements as the original OS release.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
Non-IT stuff:
Retinal changes in schizophrenia (2019): https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniab ... 06/5598443
Πᾶσά τε ἐπιστήμη χωριζομένη δικαιοσύνης καὶ τῆς ἄλλης ἀρετῆς πανουργία, οὐ σοφία φαίνεται. (Plato)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by harkaz » Wed Sep 01, 2021 8:42 pm

OFFTOPIC:

Today I have been suspended from medical duty indefinitely due to non compliance with mandatory SARS-CoV-2 immunization policy.

As I have already stated here in the past (December 2020), I do not intend to be vaccinated until Western democracy is secure. We are definitely not there, in fact we are moving in the opposite direction.

Regarding what we know about the vaccines right now, immune escape is a potential issue. Current evidence clearly supports the prevention of severe complications from infection, with a much lower incidence of complications. However, repeated immunizations in the future (which may be necessary due to evolutionary pressure on the virus from the massive immunization and inability to achieve herd immunity due to immune escape) may change the safety profile of these products.

In my opinion, vaccine mandates are not useful and highly unethical, unless we have clear evidence that the vaccine offers sterilizing immunity (i.e. it can make the disease disappear). Only then can this be discussed with some additional prerequisites:
1. The pathogen constitutes a substantial threat to survival of the human species - all other therapeutics have failed. In addition, no other primary prevention measures are immediately available.
2. The immunization agent is manufactured in a fully transparent manner - just like open source software. Independent analysis and study of the vaccine samples is encouraged to gain public trust. (Who would trust a proprietary cryptographic algorithm? The same principle applies to health security).
3. Generous provisions for compensation of the victims of mandatory immunization, who should be treated as heroes that were sacrificed for the survival of the species.
4. Full criminal liability of the implicated stakeholders (governments, agencies, manufacturers) if the best practices possible were not followed in the research, development, production, distribution and disposal of these medicinal products.

I can hear the argument that the unvaccinated may cause financial damage and the solution to that financial problem is rather simple; a social solidarity tax for the unvaccinated.


Be prepared for the worse. Do not blindly trust authority. Stay humane.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
Non-IT stuff:
Retinal changes in schizophrenia (2019): https://academic.oup.com/schizophreniab ... 06/5598443
Πᾶσά τε ἐπιστήμη χωριζομένη δικαιοσύνης καὶ τῆς ἄλλης ἀρετῆς πανουργία, οὐ σοφία φαίνεται. (Plato)

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by GH0st » Thu Sep 02, 2021 10:24 pm

Well said!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Kurt_Aust » Fri Sep 03, 2021 3:39 am

Speaking from the former current penal colony of Australia where they shoot rescue dogs rather than let people go to the pound to collect them -

Hear Hear !!

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Re: Welcome to Windows XP Service Pack 4

Post by Dibya » Sun Sep 05, 2021 2:15 am

@harkaz

When Western Democracy existed? Who the hell you ever elect , they will end up becoming slave of deep state ( No Illuminati required , good old corporation are enough)

In Ancient India or Greece,In most state More democracy existed , King/Queen was Autocrats but Ministers were elected by the people. Those days it seem to have worked well for them , Ancient India , Egypt , Persia and Greece were highly prosperous, but hey you are not suppose to know that history as Earth is 6K Yrs old and God doesn't approve you to talk about your Pegan ancestor.
Those days Greece was part of East , it still is rest of the Europe today's so called West like USA and Allies were bunch of Stone Age people.
Speaking of western democracy , it exists so much in West that still Queen of England is head of state of Canada,New Zealand and Australia.
How champion of democracy aka West accepted Communist China as real China and rejected Taiwan, and how nice equipment left to terrorist in Certain country in South Asia.
How USA selling ARMS to Turkey which is threatening sovereignty of Greece , very place democracy was invented.

Action speaks for themselves not Propaganda but well well it seems fear mongering works great in West , People like Slaves believe what ever their left wing media says or does.

More like Karma biting back , good luck. Just stay away from unproven Medication , stay safe , remember their light end of every darkness.

Like your good old BBC they will show India is a big slum , much of Asia is big slum but where much of India/Asia looks like this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jo7QfVVpEeY
We are poor right BBC , who extracted 45 trillion USD from Indian Subcontinent? What excuse , we gave you democracy but Ancient greek record dating back 320BC says democracy existed in India.
Moreover Democracy came to India because of Freedom fighter like Gandhi,Netaji , Brits didnt give us for free.

Then when i went to Britain or Portugal , they asked me insulting question whether i live in SLum and how i smell like curry blah blah blah,
Same Media feeding Hindu Phobia and racism yet they like you to believe they are spreading you liberal leftist values.

Rest of the Europe was fine , everyone treated me well.

Formal Colonies think how great Colonial era was. a former Royal of India , In our ruling state 8K people died due to Churchill yet his photo is printed on Pound , so amazing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AAVgkVV2NZM

They loves to call Indo-Iranian as brown skinned to make us like North African to please arabs , Whether most of us Olive Skinned , only 20% are dark enough to be brown, 20% like My Mom are so fair looks like someone poured red pigment on milk. We are not racist they say , cannot say Indo Iranian but can call us Brown so amazing. Even they are so racially superior they need to steal Swastika and word like Arya for their white supremacist movement in West.

10 Corporation and certain Church controls everything in West , unfortunately much of the people is un aware of It.

I am not hating British people , many of my friends are from Britain, I am took it as example to explain how western democracy works.

Corporation==>Media Propaganda==>People Vote whom Corporation Wants ==> Fake Democracy in Action
How to make people believe this Democracy?
Show How People are poor/suffering in other country ==> Show how better you are ( China is Police state and Australia is Democracy though they are same, both places people suffering) ==> 80% People stays asleep

In above loop replace Democracy with Communism , You have China
replace it with Socialist Democracy you have India

So what is the solution? Ancient Egyptian/Greek and Indian system of democracy with bit of twist

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Nation ==> State ==> District
Each District will be Decentralized sovereign state with their own values, Tax collected with in district will be used within district.
Federal Engorgement will have Cabinet and President, All will be elected by the people of the Nation , not by Parliament.No Tax higher than 1% will be allowed , higher tax is theft.
School Colleges Hospital built upon Communities contribution and Donation.
Infrastructure built on that 1% tax collected.
No Import or Export Duty among nations this will abolish inflation.
Mayor will be chief of District elected by People of District.
These Mayors will be member of Parliament , representing their community in Federal Parliament.
Nation will maintain just Army to protect border not enslave their own people.

Lets build a better world

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Post by GH0st » Tue Sep 07, 2021 11:03 pm

You must realize the technologies being used to , essentially brainwash, our people here in USA. Brainwash, PROGRAM out minds, its everywhere and its 24/7. People have almost no idea it exists. Lucifer does not have magic, its tech ... and our people, our children are harvested.

I have been investigating the Human Trafficking problems here in my local community. At one point I was a part of a lawful "Special Grand Jury", where the people become the investigators, as our total law enforcement system has been compromised (at all levels). So we the people investigated and maximum interference occurred against us, by the local gangsters (cops, state police, Judges, Prosecutors and politicians).

I later continued with my investigations and started to report to not just my Federal Prosecutor and FBI but also the United Nations Office of Drug and Crime ... 15 years later, still nothing has been done, except to protect the bad guys. They even set me up on a crime (I did not do) and put me in jail for 20 days, just to teach me a lesson and show the other members of our community, what will happen to them, should they continue to seek justice.

I live in Charlotte County Virginia, USA ... were we not only have high school (15-18yo) hookers (prostitutes), not only have middle school (12-15yo) hookers,not only have elementary school hookers (7-12yo), not only have kindergarten (5-6yo) hookers, but, we have pre-school (4-5yo) hookers as well. Sheriffs Dept, State police, and many many others, are all in on it.

I did write President Trump and sent a package to the White House 01Sept20, received in white house mail room 11Sept20 and with in 2 weeks I started to see local federal agents doing their investigations ... but with Trump losing the election (stolen election), things seemed to have stopped.

Local drug running is CIA/FBI, a managed drug program, sometimes referred to as the "5-Star Trust", were our government is actually running all the drugs and prosti, of its own people, in its own country.

With my eyes WIDE-OPEN, I can see our CIA has been doing this everywhere!!!!!! They have destroyed our entire nation ... and the world too! :(

www.monkeywerxus.com/blog/five-star-trust

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Post by Dibya » Wed Sep 08, 2021 1:02 pm

@Ghost

OBa-Kama-doom , the first autocrat of America successfully installed Autocrat of India aka Fake-odi, People think him as Savior but he is the agent of Deep State , slave of Gates and run by Gujarati Corporate Mafias.
Thanks for the nice gift KIA , XBI for inter fairing in Indian election like pro

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Post by =[FEAR]=JIGSAW » Mon Sep 13, 2021 4:32 am

Ok, this confirms it ... close the website ... threads are going south :P

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Post by harkaz » Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:03 pm

The GDrive download link has been updated in the first post.
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Post by harkaz » Sun Sep 26, 2021 4:49 am

If anyone from the Greek Security Services is reading this forum and would like to investigate me per the upcoming "fake news" law in Greece, you most likely already know who I am. If you don't, it is the name of first author of the Schizophrenia Bulletin manuscript.

I always remain at the service of democracy, against oppression and persecution.
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Post by Dibya » Mon Oct 18, 2021 12:25 pm

@harkaz People will protest , In India large amount of people filling cases in court against laws passed in few years and many other like Lockdown and vaccine mandate, People protesting in street yet their media blackout , media is busy with Afghanistan and Taliban.
Just wait and see , Truth Prevails, at end of darkness , their is light always

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Post by spawn » Wed Oct 27, 2021 9:06 am

i would very much like a simplified system to build a sp4 cd than grab all the components.
Also like to ask people to stay on topic.

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Post by harkaz » Thu Oct 28, 2021 9:55 am

@spawn If I understand the request correctly, there are 3rd party ISOs with SP4 pre-integrated but I have not tested them: https://archive.org/details/WindowsXPSP4

I do not wish to make the thread harder to follow with offtopic posts either, but the importance of maintaining the rights to bodily autonomy and ensuring freedom of expression, transparency and accountability in science is profound, and the goal of these limited offtopic remarks is to sensitize our extensive viewer base about the urgent threat our civilization is facing. It seems I will probably have to start a new thread devoted to the subject in the future.

UPDATE (offtopic): https://web.archive.org/web/20211102181 ... /bmj.n2635
Every physician who is aware of this report and does not inform their patients about it prior to immunization (even if they doubt about its authenticity), is complicit.
EDIT: Plus, the 200 tn elephant in the room: If there is a probability of data fabrication in the highest level of evidence based medicine, what is really happening in the small, sh***y studies that are used to build multiple A0-sized pages of CVs in the industry?
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Post by travma » Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:09 pm

@harkaz Democracy originally means terror https://el.wikipedia.org/wiki/Δείμος_(μυθολογία). They change one letter from Δειμος το Δημος which both has the same accent/vowel and associate Δημος with municipality. They stole and hide technology and inventions in this era https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invention_Secrecy_Act like they did in ancient times and they use it against people like US 6506148 B2. That's why many ancient temples or ancient artifacts like the nazca lines, the Sphinx, Angkor Wat and many others does not have reasonable and consistent explanation. I mean to build Angkor Wat by hand at that old time you need an army of builders and whole nation to grow food just to feed them. Even then how they manage to transport food for the builders when no road existed and where those builders live? A today's builder can live in a remote city and he can move by car or truck to the building place and he can use excavators, percussion drills, power tools, bricks etc. As they present history to us an ancient builder had only hammer and chisel and a horse at best. Yet they have a detail plan, civil engineers, architects, amazing sculpture, paints etc. we have only today. Then again, they invent dinosaurs yet no dinosaur exist in any ancient literature. Their dinosaurs had no way to having sex with those immovable big bulk tales which often had toothsaw horns. Essentially, they rewrite history to cover their evil deeds just like a worm who recovers after a shutdown.

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Post by harkaz » Fri Dec 03, 2021 2:02 pm

OFFTOPIC: Today the Greek Council of State (the supreme Court for administrative matters) has decided that mandatory immunization (without any liability of the manufacturer) is constitutional. Greece is formally no longer a democracy.
The Court has decided that it is a civic duty of health professionals to be immunized for the protection of the patients, and that SARS-CoV-2 vaccines achieve this. Moreover, they deemed that suspension without pay or insurance was a constitutional penalty for those failing to comply.

I have no comment on this laughable decision. With allegations of data fabrication in the randomized controlled trials of the BNT162b2 that were ignored by regulatory authorities, and the explosion of reported adverse events, orders of magnitude greater than any previously available vaccine, I smell shit. Under those circumstances, ordering general mandatory vaccination seems like an attempt to make the non-vaccinated comparison group disappear.

Let's face it. Western democracy has been betrayed by those who were supposed to protect it. Citizens (NOT the useful idiots) need to fight back. But in order to win this war with the plutocrats and their academic/technocratic whores, we need to become self-sufficient and understand that our enemies are very intelligent people without ethics.

This is a note to the enemies of the free people:
I decided to comply with the court order. But, from now on, they can no longer persecute me for health security reasons. From now on, it is purely political. No more propaganda about the arrogant citizens that refuse to be immunized.
We are immunized without our free will in order to perform our "civic duty", but I am beyond certain that you will insist on severe human rights violations because you are lawless.

I guarantee you that I will do everything in my power to shred your lawless regime to pieces.
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Post by GH0st » Fri Dec 03, 2021 6:57 pm

Bravo!!

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Post by harkaz » Thu Dec 09, 2021 5:53 pm

Interesting offtopic: A predictive model for Operation "Freedom" (a name given by the Greek PM to the immunization program in Greece).

Image

Short description: The government is using an arsenal of power tools (as defined by Joseph Nye in 1990, Harvard University) against civilians.
Based on an established pattern of rapidly moving from soft to hard power in a few months, the militarization of the health security crisis can be forecasted. A potential method of implementing the financial restrictive measures (the last step before exertion of military force) could be converting the vaccine passport to a digital wallet. <Censored> represents the extent of lies and coverup of severe human rights violations during the enforcement of very hard power.

A characteristic of hard power is that it is enforced quickly but its effects do not last for long. However, society will be devastated.

Edit: Joseph Nye appears to be one of the most seminal scholars in international affairs and a top member of several think tanks. If he happens to read this post, I'd be interested in hearing his views on my amateur analysis (my e-mail can be found at the first post).

Update: The fluid geopolitical situation in Ukraine, the collapse of the Turkish Lira (probably the first domino to fall in hyperinflation), and the militarization of Western democracies with immunization mandates, all point to interesting times ahead...
Update #2: I was immunized today with the Janssen product (Ad26.COV2.S). In summary, my actual resistance to mandatory immunization lasted from Sep 1, 2021 to Dec 16, 2021 (106 days).

Edit #2: Re-uploaded the image on January 31, 2022 to another host.
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Post by Dibya » Thu Dec 16, 2021 12:08 pm

I will ask my western friends to take Tyrants to Court https://indianbarassociation.in/multipl ... vernments/
In India they started doing it , Tyrants are already removing mandates , at least in my State

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Post by GH0st » Thu Dec 16, 2021 9:06 pm

Bravo Dibya!!

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Post by harkaz » Thu Jan 13, 2022 4:47 pm

Notice: Windows XP SP4 Update Rollup and Update Pack have been re-released (v2) to fix a bug with the ntoskrnl.exe being the same as ntkrnlmp.exe, causing boot issues on specific processors.
Windows XP Unofficial SP4 (2014, 2016, and 2019): https://ryanvm.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=10321
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Post by Kurt_Aust » Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:56 am

Can you clarify which processors in particular are affected?

I'm assuming that it's a rare corner case seeing as the issue taken a long time to be identified.

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Post by harkaz » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:23 am

Kurt_Aust wrote:
Fri Jan 14, 2022 4:56 am
Can you clarify which processors in particular are affected?

I'm assuming that it's a rare corner case seeing as the issue taken a long time to be identified.
The ntoskrnl.exe was accidentally the same as ntkrnlmp.exe
Single-threaded systems were affected.
The issue was brought to my attention just yesterday.
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Post by harkaz » Fri Jan 14, 2022 8:30 am

I have uploaded everything from the SP4 collection (including SP4 MUI ISO) to the Internet Archive.
Location: https://archive.org/details/xp-unoffici ... 2_20220113
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Post by Kurt_Aust » Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:38 pm

What is the SHA-1 of the slipstreamable post SP4 update pack archive? (PostSP4-May19-UpdatePack-harkaz-070619-v2.zip)

From both Google Drive & Internet Archive I get
MD5: 6B6B9C211EA75715F7DEE5699BCD6B68
SHA-1: 818CE8D08E3F19BFF06CDA49A21FC0EC09B399AF
SHA-256: 6864C77EEDAD59D9F19F37239E60EA781B8898FE1139DAF72F3553738F69F7AB

Also why does one have to download a 315MB .7z file from the Internet Archive to access the 111MB .zip file needed for slipstreaming? Normally it wouldn't be an issue but I had to restart the download from the Internet archive about 20 times due to (timeout?) failures.

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Post by harkaz » Sun Jan 16, 2022 4:16 pm

Kurt_Aust wrote:
Sun Jan 16, 2022 3:38 pm
What is the SHA-1 of the slipstreamable post SP4 update pack archive? (PostSP4-May19-UpdatePack-harkaz-070619-v2.zip)

From both Google Drive & Internet Archive I get
MD5: 6B6B9C211EA75715F7DEE5699BCD6B68
SHA-1: 818CE8D08E3F19BFF06CDA49A21FC0EC09B399AF
SHA-256: 6864C77EEDAD59D9F19F37239E60EA781B8898FE1139DAF72F3553738F69F7AB

Also why does one have to download a 315MB .7z file from the Internet Archive to access the 111MB .zip file needed for slipstreaming? Normally it wouldn't be an issue but I had to restart the download from the Internet archive about 20 times due to (timeout?) failures.
Hashes are correct. I added SHA1/SHA256 checksums to the first post.

Also:

File: WindowsXP-SP4EOS-Rollup-v2.exe
SHA-1: 21b186c95b40ace90b4bbe0764b1e1da3276d758
SHA-256: 2dbee3f4a10211d41888381c1593cf48881bb472d4107c4270c1f4323618f884

The SHA-1 hash has been already posted for this file.

I uploaded the GDrive folders as 7z archives, because I faced difficulties uploading those as folders.
Using a download manager might help with interrupted downloads.
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Post by bphlpt » Sun Jan 16, 2022 6:32 pm

As of right now, everything except SP4V30MUI.iso and some of the COMPONENTS_REFERENCE material is still available, and is updated, on GDrive, which is also faster to download from. But it's good that everything is backed up and available on the Wayback Machine, ie Internet Archive. :)

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Post by harkaz » Thu Feb 03, 2022 2:56 pm

Offtopic. An opinion piece which I originally submitted to be considered for publication in the British Medical Journal on January 8, 2022 will be presented below. The opinion piece questions the evidence base upon which the Pfizer/BioNTech vaccine was rolled out (this piece of scepticism could apply to other vaccines as well). Apart from the possibility of fraud, another possible factor which could compromise data integrity (and result in data loss) is cyberattack. I just received (February 3, 2022) the rejection letter, and not wanting to try another academic journal (BMJ was the most appropriate in my opinion), I am publishing it here:

The Ventavia scandal: Can we trust the clinical trial data?
Charalampos T. Kazakos, Independent Researcher, Athens, Greece
E-mail: har.kaz94@gmail.com


The vaccines against SARS-CoV-2 have been tested and rolled out in unprecedented time and have exhibited a protective effect against severe illness and death, both in clinical trial datasets and real-world observational data. However, recent allegations (1) about data integrity issues in a few centers (affiliated with Ventavia Research Group) of the BNT162b2 randomized controlled trial, have raised serious concerns about the ability of regulatory authorities to monitor the validity of clinical trial data.

It has been more than two months since the original report. I am still anticipating a transparent, independent investigation of the matter. I am requesting, at the minimum, a publication of the raw, anonymized dataset of the clinical trial, along with a release of the full data management and analytic code for public review and debugging. It is critical to determine if similar events affecting data integrity have occurred in other research centers that participated in the trial. Based on such an investigation, the scientific community will hopefully be able to accurately determine the extent and randomness of data loss in the BNT162b2 trial. If more than 10% of the dataset is missing not at random (MNAR), the ability to calculate valid confidence intervals for the primary trial outcomes could be irreparably compromised. These confidence intervals are a critical component of the marketing authorization application. As a result, the legal status of the marketing authorization of the product could be affected, with far-reaching economic, political and social implications.

Being a junior physician who has opposed immunization mandates, I have personally experienced the stigma and hardship that vaccine hesitants and deniers have been through. It would be appalling to imagine that such a policy was based on unreliable clinical trial data, because observational data do not allow for strong causal inference. As we are seemingly moving towards the end of the current health crisis, our next steps should be focused on reconciliation, and ensuring the resilience and reliability of our data systems during the next major global crisis. We can achieve this – with transparent, secure processes, accountability of the implicated stakeholders, and respect to human rights and dignity.


Short bio: Currently an Ophthalmology Resident at the Athens General Hospital ‘Elpis’, Athens, Greece. The views presented in this document are strictly personal.

Funding: None
Competing interests: None.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/charalampos ... -a337a9b8/

References
1. Thacker, P. D. (2021). "Covid-19: Researcher blows the whistle on data integrity issues in Pfizer’s vaccine trial." BMJ 375: n2635.
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Post by Kurt_Aust » Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:03 am

Off topic.

I can't help but feel that (amongst other things) we have a definition problem, when I and most other lay people think "vaccine" we think of ones like the Smallpox or Polio vaccine where if you're vaccinated you simply will not get that disease.

If one had been vaccinated against Smallpox (hard to think of a greater killer, especially of the native Americans) one could reasonably walk into a major outbreak without fear to render aid and comfort.

That certainly isn't the case with these "vaccines" so perhaps we need a new term for a preventative that stimulates the immune system but doesn't provide full immunity or long term protection.

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Post by bphlpt » Fri Feb 04, 2022 6:15 pm

Yeah, it seems to me, also a lay person, that these new vaccines are on the same level as the flu shot. (Maybe they can be combined in the future?) If you get a shot every year, as it is changed each year to try and keep up with the changes in the virus, it seems to make it less likely that you will get it, and if you do the symptoms will hopefully be less severe, but it by no means prevents you from getting it. Again, that's just a lay person's opinion.

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Post by harkaz » Sat Feb 05, 2022 5:49 am

Kurt_Aust wrote:
Fri Feb 04, 2022 5:03 am
Off topic.

I can't help but feel that (amongst other things) we have a definition problem, when I and most other lay people think "vaccine" we think of ones like the Smallpox or Polio vaccine where if you're vaccinated you simply will not get that disease.

If one had been vaccinated against Smallpox (hard to think of a greater killer, especially of the native Americans) one could reasonably walk into a major outbreak without fear to render aid and comfort.

That certainly isn't the case with these "vaccines" so perhaps we need a new term for a preventative that stimulates the immune system but doesn't provide full immunity or long term protection.
The CDC changed the definition of "vaccine" recently (September 1st, 2021). This change on its own is indicative of the need for "resilient and reliable data systems" that I mention in the manuscript, because language symbols constitute an important component of our ability to collect and process data from the world.
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Post by Dibya » Sat Feb 12, 2022 1:50 am

Flu shots are banned in India , they found it makes Flu worse, they called Anti body aided enhancement or something like that
Interesting things happening in Europe , hope Russia and Ukraine doesn't go to war.

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