[Release] Kels' Runtimes v8.8

RedWine · Post by **RedWine** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:26 am

Please, here it is
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/deta ... laylang=en

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 3:52 am

Well shit I must be blind...

Thanks, now the question is to you guys:

JUST the dll's or both the dll and ocx files? (Active x controls)

HosseinMoradi · Post by **HosseinMoradi** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:09 am

list of files to update :
msstdfmt.dll
msstkprp.dll
ComCt232.ocx
comctl32.Ocx
ComDlg32.ocx
dblist32.Ocx
mci32.Ocx
mscomct2.ocx
mscomctl.ocx
MSComm32.Ocx
MSDatGrd.ocx
MSDatLst.Ocx
MSFlxGrd.ocx
MSINET.Ocx
msmask32.ocx
MSWINSCK.ocx
PicClp32.Ocx
richtx32.Ocx
sysinfo.Ocx
TabCtl32.Ocx

list of files to add :
MShflxgd.ocx

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 5:14 am

OK I can do that

I just am tired and got overwhelmed by the thought of adding so much!

Kiki Burgh · Post by **Kiki Burgh** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 8:45 am

hello kel! link leads to page cannot be displayed ... thanks!

HosseinMoradi · Post by **HosseinMoradi** » Fri Jan 02, 2009 9:44 am

it's not adding so much!
it's adding one file and updating the rest

lacrima1980 · Post by **lacrima1980** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 9:36 am

Download link not working....

litemirrors · Post by **litemirrors** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:20 pm

I concur link does not work

perhaps he took it down to update?

Please tell me why when I goto http://www.wpiw.net/downloads/addons access is denied. Why deny access you might have more addons in the directory for me

grr I want'm : hugs :

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 8:51 pm

Actually I can't give public access to dir. I have very little server controls. The server was donated and paid for untill 2010 August.

I did update this and upload it. I just forgot to update the first post after I ran my test.

As for there being more downloads in there I kinda doubt it because almost all of my addons where taken down. There is only like 2 dozen in there.

beats · Post by **beats** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:06 pm

Thank you again for the update Kel.

litemirrors · Post by **litemirrors** » Sat Jan 03, 2009 10:22 pm

Thank you, can you tell me me what other addons you make

Will you ever make a theme pack bundle?!

Sereby · Post by **Sereby** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 5:49 am

kel: why did you revrtet vcomp90.dll from v9.0.30729.177 to v9.0.21022.8?
in last addon it was still present.

and almost all other .cat's are 1 day newer but 1kb smaller.. from where are they?

code65536 · Post by **code65536** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:04 am

Sereby wrote:kel: why did you revrtet vcomp90.dll from v9.0.30729.177 to v9.0.21022.8?
in last addon it was still present.

Raise your hand if you have ever used an application that has used the vcomp library.

*chirping crickets*

I'd be surprised if you find even one consumer app that uses OpenMP. It's a library that I'd expect to see in scientific or cluster computing.

Anyway, I suspect that the most likely reason vcomp was reverted was because Kel based the sxs assemblies in his latest release on my rtl pack. As for why my rtl pack contains the RTM vcomp instead of a newer version, it's because that's the version that Microsoft has included in their vcredist package, and the vc8/9 sxs assemblies in my pack were extracted from their respective vcredist packages (instead of from the devel packages in the same VS hotfix). Microsoft uses the latest build of all the libraries in vcredist for VC9, with the exception of vcomp. I don't know why they do this, but I have guesses (perhaps because the only changes to vcomp between RTM and now has been version/compiler bumps). In contrast, VC8's vcomp libraries are updated in the vcredist package, probably because there have been notable changes. The cat file difference is probably related: my guess is that the people who packaged the devel runtimes are not the same as the people who packaged the vcredist runtimes, and that may result in the .cat discrepancy as well as the vcomp decision (maybe they included the debug libraries? I dunno; I haven't looked into it, nor do I really care). If you really care about this, you could write to Microsoft and ask why they only use RTM vcomp in their VC9 redist package, but I suspect that you probably don't since nobody ever uses OMP anyway.

V@no · Post by **V@no** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:05 pm

Hello!
I'm sorry, I don't have time and patience read all 560 replies in this topic. Can someone please explain and if possible add such explanation to the original topic - what do we do with this .rar file?
I have previous versions of this addon and all of them where .cab file with no extra .ini or such. These no needed any extraction, loaded in RVMIntegrator and you are good to go.

Thank you.

beats · Post by **beats** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 6:17 pm

You can load the RAR file into RVM Integrator or nLite like any other hotfix or addon.

V@no · Post by **V@no** » Sun Jan 04, 2009 7:31 pm

You are absolutely right, it was my mistake - tried add filename manually and misspelled it.
Sorry for the confusion.

willyeckerslike · Post by **willyeckerslike** » Fri Jan 16, 2009 10:12 am

Thank you for the runtimes Kel. I've integrated the pack into my XP disc without problems. Is there a way to integrate them into a Vista DVD?

vmanda · Post by **vmanda** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 6:01 am

You can use vlite.

willyeckerslike · Post by **willyeckerslike** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:22 pm

Thanks Vmanda. Can you please expand on your rather short answer. How would I use vlite to integrate this addon?

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 5:37 pm

I am sorry but he is mistaken.

vLite cannot integrate addons or programs. (Yet)

I could make a switchless but the 2005\2008 Visual Basic runtimes would be missing.

However roguespear DOES have a nice set of switchless addons for runtimes. I would go take a peek at his forum...

willyeckerslike · Post by **willyeckerslike** » Sat Jan 17, 2009 8:10 pm

Thank you Kelsenellenelvian. I have integrated silent installers with Vista Update Toolkit and your Vista uberpack and cpl pack integrate nicely and add much needed functionality.
Would it be possible to add the runtimes to their respective folders in Vista by mounting the Wim or is there more to it than that.
I will take a look at roguespears site also.

fungus · Post by **fungus** » Sun Mar 01, 2009 1:11 am

Thank you for the update Kel

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 8:07 am

Hi

Thanks for the pack, but I'd like to know what it consists of.
I mean, I know that I need vc++ 2005sp1 and vc++ 2008 for some apps, but I don't know if those are included in your pack.

Thanks

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 3:29 pm

did you NOT read the very first post in this thread.

In case you need it, consider this a Personal Invitation.....

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:14 pm

Sorry I don't understand.
I was asking if those vc++ things are included.
Of course I've read the first post, but all I see is a list of dll, which doesn't help me...
(as I don't know which dll's those vc++ - I was refering to - consist of)

code65536 · Post by **code65536** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 5:30 pm

geoslake wrote:(as I don't know which dll's those vc++ - I was refering to - consist of)

Is it really that difficult to do a simple web search for c runtime dlls? You can also take a look at the breakdown in this post.

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Mon Mar 02, 2009 6:14 pm

As you can see, we get a bit harsh around here when it's probably the users responsibility to a) read and b) google questions before coming in.

Sorry 'bout that but consider it an initiation of sorts.

And welcome!

Nameless Mofo · Post by **Nameless Mofo** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:08 am

newsposter wrote:Sorry 'bout that but consider it an initiation of sorts.

Thank you sir may I have another!

Post by **5eraph** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:17 am

"The beatings will continue until morale improves."

ENU_user · Post by **ENU_user** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 12:55 am

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 3:51 am

code65536 wrote:
geoslake wrote:(as I don't know which dll's those vc++ - I was refering to - consist of)
Is it really that difficult to do a simple web search for c runtime dlls? You can also take a look at the breakdown in this post.

I did search (before posting) on the vc++ 2008 download page, but it didn't show which dll were inside.
Moreover, do you really think i wanna list them all, and compare to the dll's included in the addon ?
Why not just stating in the first post something like "when integrating this, you won't need to install : vc++ 2008, 2005 sp1 etc" ?
And your answers still don't help me sorry, all this is extremely confusing to me, but I guess the answer is "yes, they are both included" (?).

Thanks

code65536 · Post by **code65536** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 8:08 am

geoslake wrote:I did search (before posting) on the vc++ 2008 download page, but it didn't show which dll were inside.

So it never occurred to you to cast a slightly wider net to determine what files are inside? (or more importantly, to find out what exactly the redistributable that you are asking for is supposed to be, because if you understood that, then you'd also understand that the actual file list is really not that important)

geoslake wrote:Moreover, do you really think i wanna [...]

That is the sort of attitude that will get people flamed on Usenet, in mailing lists, in forums, etc. Would the first post of this thread be better off with a friendly executive summary of what is included? Yes, definitely. Does your asking of a question that could have been answered (or at least mostly answered) by just a few minutes of Googling represent a breach of etiquette? Yes. More importantly, note that the first of these two observations does not invalidate the latter.

This would not have drawn ire: "It appears that this addon contains the runtimes of the VC8/9 redist packages, but I just want to confirm that both packages are fully included since the first post does not do a very good job of indicating this."

And chances are, you are now thinking, "But wouldn't it have been easier for you to just say 'yes' instead of being all snarky and abrasive about it?" Yes, it probably would have been in the short term. And that's what I used to do, years ago, in various newsgroups, mailing lists, and other forums. But I found that providing such answers only invited others to abdicate their obligations and ask similar questions.

geoslake · Post by **geoslake** » Tue Mar 03, 2009 11:43 am

code65536 wrote:So it never occurred to you to cast a slightly wider net to determine what files are inside?

So could you give me the exact words I should have typed in to get the answer - that seem so obvious ?
Thanks

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Sat May 09, 2009 11:36 am

Updated...

beats · Post by **beats** » Sat May 09, 2009 4:51 pm

Thank you Kel.

willyeckerslike · Post by **willyeckerslike** » Sat May 09, 2009 5:33 pm

Ta very much.

ahmerkhan · Post by **ahmerkhan** » Sun May 10, 2009 9:26 am

ThankU Kel... Nice to see the USP10.DLL update...

Mavericks choice · Post by **Mavericks choice** » Mon May 11, 2009 4:45 pm

Thanks for the update Kel

Cheers
MC.

Knowone · Post by **Knowone** » Tue May 19, 2009 8:33 pm

Thanks, Kellen, highly appreciated.

Shiva · Post by **Shiva** » Wed May 27, 2009 5:56 pm

KB957924-v2
ComCt232.ocx 6.0.98.16
ComCt332.ocx 6.7.0.9816
comctl32.Ocx 6.0.98.16
ComDlg32.OCX 6.1.98.16
dblist32.Ocx 6.1.98.16
mci32.Ocx 6.1.98.16
mscomct2.ocx 6.1.98.16
mscomctl.OCX 6.1.98.16
MSComm32.Ocx 6.1.98.16
MSDatGrd.ocx 6.1.98.16
MSDatLst.Ocx 6.1.98.16
MSFlxGrd.ocx 6.1.98.14
MShflxgd.ocx 6.1.98.16
MSINET.Ocx 6.1.98.16
msmask32.ocx 6.1.98.16
msstdfmt.dll 6.1.98.16
msstkprp.dll 6.1.98.16
MSWINSCK.ocx 6.1.98.16
PicClp32.Ocx 6.1.98.16
richtx32.Ocx 6.1.98.16
sysinfo.Ocx 6.1.98.16
TabCtl32.Ocx 6.1.98.16

Download﹕http://rapidshare.de/files/47323710/Updated.7z.html or http://www.mediafire.com/?jcncdndz1zm

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Wed May 27, 2009 6:31 pm

no one in their right mind is going to download runtimes from any place but the mfgrs original distro or archive.

crashfly · Post by **crashfly** » Wed May 27, 2009 10:02 pm

Well I must be in my "wrong" mind then. Since Kelsenellenelvian makes an excellent pack, it would seem that many people use his pack. I myself am included.

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Thu May 28, 2009 3:18 am

I was referring to packages that the newcomer, shiva, has pointed to.

Unknown user, critical system files, unvetted source.

code65536 · Post by **code65536** » Thu May 28, 2009 7:48 am

newsposter wrote:critical system files

No, not really; these .ocx ActiveX controls are all but extinct (they were never really widely used back in the day, and now that they're a decade old, they are even less widely used); you'll be hard-pressed to find anything that still loads them. There is a reason I don't bother to include them in my runtimes pack.

newsposter · Post by **newsposter** » Thu May 28, 2009 12:04 pm

yup, no sense splitting hairs, etc, etc.

crashfly · Post by **crashfly** » Thu May 28, 2009 12:49 pm

My bad. No harm intended.

ENU_user · Post by **ENU_user** » Thu May 28, 2009 6:28 pm

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Thu May 28, 2009 7:44 pm

OK guys enough please.

Quantity is the question in this pack.

My goal is to NEVER have a "Missing .dll" popup with this pack.

P.S. I have gotten good stuff from Shiva before and trust him\her rather well. (Thanks shiva)

Shiva · Post by **Shiva** » Fri May 29, 2009 4:47 am

KB957924-v2 ← source
ComCt232.ocx 6.0.98.16
ComCt332.ocx 6.7.0.9816
.
..
...
TabCtl32.Ocx 6.1.98.16

Download﹕http://rapidshare.de/files/47323710/Updated.7z.html or http://www.mediafire.com/?jcncdndz1zm ← I Upload Files (Use “Universal Extractor 1.6” Extracted)

P.S My English isn't very good, So.....

Kelsenellenelvian · Post by **Kelsenellenelvian** » Sat May 30, 2009 7:42 am

Uploading new version now...

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